Flowing Thought

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the prayer shawl is the most ridiculous item in this game. its like a 3/10 item walled behind every tradeskill in the game.
Farming 110k for the choker is 100% better use of your time than the shawl. Atleast you can flip the choker if you lose interest / upgrade

Shawl is a 7/10 item or should have been, similar to the ring.

[Sunderfury]

Imagine custom content where next shawl line is implemented. During early Luclin, handing in your shawl would "fetch" Dain Frostreaver IV for the quest if he wasn't spawned (who would be killable and with a full loot table).

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Sunderfury [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine custom content where next shawl line is implemented.

Every night in my dreams ...

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(Loramin dreaming of wearing 8th Shawl)

[Sibelia1]

Originally Posted by Sunderfury [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine custom content where next shawl line is implemented. During early Luclin, handing in your shawl would "fetch" Dain Frostreaver IV for the quest if he wasn't spawned (who would be killable and with a full loot table).

That would be cool but what would be cooler is to maintain a hierarchy of rigid control, keep organically-built databases in a modding scene proprietary, and cap that dream off at Velious for eternity. It's important to have lots and lots of control, ownership, and passive income.

[enjchanter]

Shawl is:

1. Walled behind every tradeskill in the game. Thats arguably more annoying to do than any epic.
2. The 7 charisma give enchanter vibes, but a neriad shawl is +25 charisma and completely outclasses it.
3. The stats are like on par with a 4k ec item (maybe less) 7int is meaningless, 7sta is roughly 25hp? for the classes who would actually wear it.
4. FT1 while not meaningless is mostly unnoticeable. This will not make you feel like youre over flowing with mana compared to not having it. Also you cant stack your FT of the same rank, so instead of using the better Choker of the Wretched which gives you 40hp and mana along with 8 Charisma for you chanters / clerics, you get an item that youre basically wearing for a weak effect that will make little to no difference instead of just wearing something like a squallsurge shawl.

This item is way way WAY too much effort to warrant the reward. Honestly , consider if you took the quest out and just put this item in the world in a reasonably similar difficulty of acquisition of a 6 neck or choker and think if you would still bother using this item.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

4. FT1 while not meaningless is mostly unnoticeable. This will not make you feel like youre over flowing with mana compared to not having it. Also you cant stack your FT of the same rank, so instead of using the better Choker of the Wretched which gives you 40hp and mana along with 8 Charisma for you chanters / clerics, you get an item that youre basically wearing for a weak effect that will make little to no difference instead of just wearing something like a squallsurge shawl.

With little time to meditate as a tank and no time as a puller, shawl works well on hybrids fulfilling either roles or both. All of the stats are on the lower end, but together it's enough. Even with cheap aggro spells, not having an Enchanter in group, mana problems arise sooner or later. There is Narandi's Crown of course, but shawl still has great value. Enchanters already having a buttload of innate mana regen, and access to other/better versions of FT, shawl probably would be more trouble than it's worth. To always have double digits in mana regen and theft of thought. /drool

[magnetaress]

Tradeskills are. fun.