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Old 11-09-2019, 05:25 PM
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Default Magician and Necro pets shouldn't grow in size or change colour until October 1999

Prior to October 1999, all mage and necro pets seem to have been the same size and colour across the entire level span.

This was adjusted to the model growth / colour change we know today in this patch:

Quote:
Spell Enhancements

- High level Necromancer and Magician pets now look different.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Patch_N...Enhancements_2
This is also mentioned by Brad in his end of year post:

Quote:
NECROS:

+ Added New Looks to Necromancer Pets

https://wiki.project1999.com/Patch_N..._Brad.27s_post
Screenshot Evidence

Necro pets

This is a screenshot of a level 34 necromancer NPC in Mistmoore (a dark ritualist) with white skeleton pets:

https://web.archive.org/web/20001011.../lottapets.jpg

This is a white skeleton pet at a Nagafen raid:

https://web.archive.org/web/20001011...agafenhead.jpg

Compare the size to what seems to be a level 4 or 8 necro pet from around the same time:

https://web.archive.org/web/20000831...s/skeleton.JPG

https://web.archive.org/web/20000831...crocasting.JPG


Magician pets

Here are screenshots of a fire pet at the same Nagafen raid as above:

https://web.archive.org/web/20010702...b/massfear.jpg

https://web.archive.org/web/20010702...antsattack.jpg

I still need to find an equally dated picture of a lower level fire pet to compare.

Newsgroup Evidence

Post from July 1999 stating that necro pets don't change with levels, and that magician elementals don't vary in size:

Quote:
7/27/99

Hi
I would like to see them fix the way our pets look at the different levels.
I know that this would not be that hard to do and would add alot more flavor
to the game. let pets reflect the level they are by looks.

Example.

Necro

1 to 4 Skeleton
4 to 8 Zombie
9 to 12 Tourmented
13 to 16 mummy
17 to 20 ghoul
21 to ...you get the point

most of these can use wepons already so that should not be a problem its
just a matter of coding the right pet model for the level.

elementals could be varing in size and intensity of color.

Sword pets could start with small shields and daggers and move up to larger
shilds and bigger weapons.

This would not make the stats change, but would just fix the way they
looked.

Andreas

Let me know what you all think.

Oh...am glad to see that the warriors and rouges got buffed a bit...they
needed it.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....U/QZEKzzixdDgJ
Another implying that necro pets aren't different at higher levels:

Quote:
5/25/99

"Josh Barber" <barb...@home.com> wrote:
> I love the necromancer class don't get me wrong but there are a
few
> things I think should be addressed.
> 1. Why do our pets all look the same, seems to me any undead would
work for
> this. Purely visual mind you just change what they look like. A necro
> walking around with, say a ghoul or a mummy would definately be very
cool.
> This is an ego thing of course. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Different artwork for the higher level pets would be nice.
Substituting other undead for the pets could work, but if they put in a
mummy just hope that they don't move like mummys. Of course, I would
like to have a coal black skellie with burning red eyes.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....4/uJoQI572naYJ
Magician pets across the various levels "all look the same":

Quote:
8/3/99

They are different "ranks" of pets
Elementalkin (level 4?)
Elementaling (level 8?)
Elemental (level 12?)


They all look the same though. They may require different stones to cast
though.. (Malachite, Lapis Luzi, etc..)

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Old 11-09-2019, 05:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolalin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Prior to October 1999, all mage and necro pets seem to have been the same size and colour across the entire level span.

This was adjusted to the model growth / colour change we know today in this patch:



This is also mentioned by Brad in his end of year post:



Screenshot Evidence

Necro pets

This is a screenshot of a level 34 necromancer NPC in Mistmoore (a dark ritualist) with white skeleton pets:

https://web.archive.org/web/20001011.../lottapets.jpg

This is a white skeleton pet at a Nagafen raid:

https://web.archive.org/web/20001011...agafenhead.jpg

Compare the size to what seems to be a level 4 or 8 necro pet from around the same time:

https://web.archive.org/web/20000831...s/skeleton.JPG

https://web.archive.org/web/20000831...crocasting.JPG


Magician pets

Here are screenshots of a fire pet at the same Nagafen raid as above:

https://web.archive.org/web/20010702...b/massfear.jpg

https://web.archive.org/web/20010702...antsattack.jpg

I still need to find an equally dated picture of a lower level fire pet to compare.

Newsgroup Evidence

Post from July 1999 stating that necro pets don't change with levels, and that magician elementals don't vary in size:



Another implying that necro pets aren't different at higher levels:



Magician pets across the various levels "all look the same":
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Old 11-10-2019, 08:31 AM
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^^ trolling bug threads has traditionally been a great way to get a vacation from the forums.
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Old 11-10-2019, 04:57 PM
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Picture of skeleton pets and a mage water pet from EQ beta.

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Old 11-10-2019, 05:00 PM
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I could be wrong but looks pretty much the same size as the Naggy raid fire pet to me.
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Old 11-10-2019, 05:15 PM
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well not that i really care about pet zie, i am not convince by this evidence, they seem more to imply that model dosent change.

But their idea would have been pretty neat for necro, skeletons, mummy, etc.

If it helps, i remmeber that back when pets were using dagger delay, 49 pets were white and tall af
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