the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by walfreyydo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or if Democrats in Congress were unified and could pass legislation that the vast majority of Americans support, his poll numbers would likely go up. Problem is vast majority of Americans dont understand basic civics and who is truly to blame for our inability as a country to even address basic problems.

Unfortunately corruption has infected a few of them (we know who the two are), with lobbyists and special interests dangling post-congressional career board positions and lucrative salaries, some of them just dont have the integrity and fortitude to do whats right for their constituents or for the country. Not to mention their personal investments in oil gas and coal.

And then you have Ted Cruz trying to get the Supreme Court to throw out a law which forbids candidates from taking bribes. And since many of the posters in this thread likely do not understand what this is about - its about candidates lending their campaigns money at ridiculously high interest rates (like 20% or more) and then repaying themselves that loan, with interest, from campaign coffers after the election.

The problem is that many special interest groups can contribute large sums of money during the campaign, and then candidates can then extract that money (remember 20% interest) after they win the election. So Ted Cruz (and others of course) essentially wants to pocket that 20% interest in campaign contributions which were given by corporations and special interest groups.

Which is, you guessed it, basically like taking a bribe. If you dont think there isnt a quid pro quo there, you are truly foolish. Ted Cruz wants to legalize bribery, plain and simple, and no one... no one, should be in support of that regardless of your political affiliation.

Ted Cruz wants bribes Democrats buy stocks with inside information.

The problem is thinking that one side is different than the other. We’ve had 40 years of partisan hatred between Fox and CNN and children and their parents and not one person in my generation has done jack shit to fix anything.

Both sides are raping you in the mouth and in the ass at the same time.

That’s the problem not “Ted Cruz”

[Gravydoo II]

Nah, pretty sure it all started with Roger Ailes and FOX.

They were the first to introduce that "we can do no wrong, we're the good guys, everyone else is bad" style of opinion shows. Bill O'reilly, etc. Now everyone acts like him, total asshole.

The opinion shows are watched more than the actual "news" cause its not sexy or hateful. Saying facts is boring. "homeless people are taking from you!" is a lot more interesting than "theres a lot of homeless people that need help".

[walfreyydo]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ted Cruz wants bribes Democrats buy stocks with inside information.

The problem is thinking that one side is different than the other. We’ve had 40 years of partisan hatred between Fox and CNN and children and their parents and not one person in my generation has done jack shit to fix anything.

Both sides are raping you in the mouth and in the ass at the same time.

That’s the problem not “Ted Cruz”

Ted Cruz is the one suing the government over this law. How can you twist that?

I said in my earlier post that corruption it a problem on both sides, but this action by Cruz is just beyond the pale and serves as an example of how republicans (in this case) have zero fear or concern of oversight from their angry distracted voters. Sorry but if a democrat tried this, their supporters would likely not vote them back into office.

For example, Kirsten Sinema will likely be primaried and she is ok with that, because if she loses, she will still have a kushy job on a board somewhere or get paid insane money by a lobbying firm or think tank in exchange for her obstruction... If you think she is doing this out of principal you are naive, she has a payday coming when she leaves. Most democratic voters see whats going on with herself and Manchin and we are rightly pissed. As far as republicans go, well thats just standard operating procedure at this point.

You (everyone) should be angry about this. Stop falling for the trap of partisanship and call it like it is. You seem to have difficulty blaming Ted Cruz because of your predisposition to support Republicans and oppose Democrats.

Thats a farce, call a spade a spade.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lmao, "voting rights" bill (such a disgusting manipulation of what it actually is) officially dead, thank god. At least two dems have a spine.

I mean "voting rights bill"? Are they serious? Who in the hell can't vote currently? Who? If you're 18 you can vote. Who can't vote, other than illegal immigrants?

Most americans SUPPORT voter ID, including black americans. Their bill was absolutely terrible policy on so many levels. If they're gonna argue that requring id to vote is racist, then id itself is racist and requiring it for anything is a racist policy, which is obviously ridiculous.

Voter ID disqualifies mail voting systems, reducing ballot access. It's pretty simple if you're not simple. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[F0rmsh1fter]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Voter ID disqualifies mail voting systems, reducing ballot access. It's pretty simple if you're not simple. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It also reduces cheating, which is why they don’t like it

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Gravydoo II [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah, pretty sure it all started with Roger Ailes and FOX.

Modern political dialogue came about in the 1960s when for the first time television put William F. Buckley Jr. (staunch conservative) in a room in front of a camera with Gore Vidal (outspoken liberal).

What resulted shocked the nation and changed political dialogue and television forever.

In the summer of 1968 television news changed forever. Dead last in the ratings, ABC hired two towering public intellectuals to debate each other during the Democratic and Republican national conventions. William F. Buckley Jr. was a leading light of the new conservative movement. A Democrat and cousin to Jackie Onassis, Gore Vidal was a leftist novelist and polemicist. Armed with deep-seated distrust and enmity, Vidal and Buckley believed each other’s political ideologies were dangerous for America. Like rounds in a heavyweight battle, they pummeled out policy and personal insult-their explosive exchanges devolving into vitriolic name-calling. Live and unscripted, they kept viewers riveted. Ratings for ABC News skyrocketed, and a new era in public discourse was born.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Gravydoo II [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah, pretty sure it all started with Roger Ailes and FOX.

Modern political dialogue came about in the 1960s when for the first time television put William F. Buckley Jr. in a room in front of a camera with Gore Vidal.

In the summer of 1968 television news changed forever. Dead last in the ratings, ABC hired two towering public intellectuals to debate each other during the Democratic and Republican national conventions. William F. Buckley Jr. was a leading light of the new conservative movement. A Democrat and cousin to Jackie Onassis, Gore Vidal was a leftist novelist and polemicist. Armed with deep-seated distrust and enmity, Vidal and Buckley believed each other’s political ideologies were dangerous for America. Like rounds in a heavyweight battle, they pummeled out policy and personal insult-their explosive exchanges devolving into vitriolic name-calling. Live and unscripted, they kept viewers riveted. Ratings for ABC News skyrocketed, and a new era in public discourse was born.

HOWEVER that's probubly gen X revisionist history, because when licon and douglass had their debate it sounded a lot like fox news vs Cnn as well...

So I have a feeling that for the last 150,000 years dipshits from both sides of the pussies vs the alpha's have been arguing the way the pussies and the alphas argue today.

[F0rmsh1fter]

Cheating is the only way dems can win elections. That’s why they want open borders and no voter id. They rigged in Hillary’s favor and their arrogance made them underestimate trump. Hillary acted like she had already won for the entire campaign. So they doubled up for biden to make sure it was secured. Those boarded up ballot counting stations and late night flood of biden votes were totally legit though I’m sure

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Voter ID disqualifies mail voting systems, reducing ballot access. It's pretty simple if you're not simple. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How does it do that? You can easily include a photocopy of your state-issued ID which contains things like your social security number or official state ID number and registered address. To, ya know, confirm you're a US citizen and ideally a real person. You can still mail your ballot in.

"Gee guys, it's sort of annoying to have to produce ID to take part in something as important as electing the next president, so let's just do away with it entirely which will in NO WAY make the election less secure! Derp!" -Dem logic.

They just shit out buzzwords like "voter suppression" and "voting rights" (the evil guys are doing the evil-sounding one btw!) and you lap it up and then smugly call others "simple".

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How does it do that? You can easily include a photocopy of your state-issued ID which contains things like your social security number or official state ID number and registered address. To, ya know, confirm you're a US citizen and ideally a real person. You can still mail your ballot in.

"Gee guys, it's sort of annoying to have to produce ID to take part in something as important as electing the next president, so let's just do away with it entirely which will in NO WAY make the election less secure! Derp!" -Dem logic.

They just shit out buzzwords like "voter suppression" and "voting rights" (the evil guys are doing the evil-sounding one btw!) and you lap it up and then smugly call others "simple".

I ticked the box to register to vote(by mail) when I signed the selective service papers, no ID required.

Did you? 😬