Daybreak is Being Acquired

[axisofebola]

Originally Posted by Tunabros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty true. But let's face it, the majority of us totally got titanium legitimately

I suspect the "majority of us" bought multiple client versions over the years, and almost everyone bought at least one.

[kjs86z]

similar thing happened to asherons call

rip p99

[Tongpow]

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Originally Posted by kjs86z [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

rip p99

[7thGate]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Server: R&N copied nothing from the old Verant code. In fact, even the current Daybreak servers copy little-to-nothing from the old Verant code, because that original code from 1999-2001 has been lost forever. Since R&N hand-wrote every line of the server, they own it.

This isn't fully true because of some of the database info. Specifically, NPC quest implementations are stored serverside, and are copied from from the original as best as they can be reconstructed. Its also not clear to me if the mob HP and spawn locations count as copyrightable data or not. This is complicated though, as I know you can't copyright game rules. While that almost certainly protects stuff like the combat formulas and the code which represents the character's presence in the 3d world, I have no idea if that extends to specific text that's embedded in the game or not.

I wouldn't be too worried about this in general, as my guess is that the cost-benefit to attempting to sue this place down is bad. For one, Rogean could probably actually get enough donations to mount a real legal defense if it came to that, so they would probably actually need to lawyer through it. Second, there's a written agreement that P99 is allowed to function which you would need a court to agree is unilaterally revokeable. While that might be the case, I suspect that complicates the situation. Third and most importantly, its extremely questionable whether they get any money from pursuing this course of action, which makes it really not worth the hassle.

[axisofebola]

Originally Posted by kjs86z [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

similar thing happened to asherons call

rip p99

They closed asheron's call something like a decade after being acquired by a larger company. The same company even reopened AC2, which turbine had already closed down before being acquired. I highly doubt either would have been closed if they were moderately profitable.

[Tongpow]

Originally Posted by 7thGate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its also not clear to me if the mob HP and spawn locations count as copyrightable data or not.

wasn't this why Winter's Roar shutdown and made Shards of Dalaya 15 years ago. they literally took out all the everquest stuff and wrote their own lore,quests,npcs..etc

lfg/lfguild if they get spared lol
https://shardsofdalaya.com/fomelo/fo...hp?char=Oshieh

[BiG SiP]

no worries lads
reliable sources deep within the elder elf council indicate that, in a moments notice a new server can be spun up DEEP in Eastern Europe under armed guard protection by senior elf cabal security forces

[loramin]

Originally Posted by 7thGate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't fully true because of some of the database info. Specifically, NPC quest implementations are stored serverside, and are copied from from the original as best as they can be reconstructed. Its also not clear to me if the mob HP and spawn locations count as copyrightable data or not. This is complicated though, as I know you can't copyright game rules. While that almost certainly protects stuff like the combat formulas and the code which represents the character's presence in the 3d world, I have no idea if that extends to specific text that's embedded in the game or not.

Like anything legal, the correct answer is "what a judge decides, not what us armchair lawyers decide". However, we can make educated guesses based on precedent, with the relevant precedent in this case being an old lawsuit over phone books: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feist_...one_Service_Co.

Basically, phone book maker A made a phone book. Phone book maker B copied every last name and phone number in that book, but re-arranged them in a new formatting. The court held that names/phone numbers were facts, and that facts can't be copyrighted (so B was off the hook because they didn't copy A's book, only the facts in it).

This is the legal source of why you noted "I know you can't copyright game rules": game rules are "facts" in a legal sense, and so aren't copyrightable. Only the specific written instructions explaining those rules (ie. the rulebook itself) can be copyrighted.

It seems likely (again, not a lawyer or judge) that the fact "mob ____ was at ____ location and respawned in ____ amount of time" would not be considered copyrightable information.

[Shrubwise]

Lizard1 it sounds like you’re very afraid of losing pixels

[Andyman1022]

Originally Posted by Lizard1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Judge will decide they are hosting an everquest server, whos ip is now owned by a different company. They created a project to modify their ip and allow users to connect to it

not sure how dumb you are but the avatar pic suggests that you have an iq around 75

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