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[Aethor]

Vianna - Please Read Again

Arthion <Riot>Today at 7:14 PM
Nah, you and we don't need to rotate vp.
am/riot (1 slot) / everyone else (2nd sllot)

DetoxxToday at 7:14 PM
nah

Arthion <Riot>Today at 7:14 PM
Ok.

[Arvan]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AM is probably issuing responder DKP for this thread.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DetoxxToday at 7:14 PM
im fine with vp rotation of am / riot / anyone else until we see who actually can kill there then we can extend the rotation

Arthion <Riot>Today at 7:14 PM
Nah, you and we don't need to rotate vp.
am/riot (1 slot) / everyone else (2nd sllot)

DetoxxToday at 7:14 PM
nah

Arthion <Riot>Today at 7:14 PM
Ok.

Here ya go

That is what Detoxx had to concede once the first better offer was made and declined. Here you go snookie.

Arthion <Riot>Today at 6:53 PM
I thought AM didn't like rotations? Regardless, the offer was to leave targets up for awhile so that it maintains a competitive feel, while giving smaller guilds (not Riot and Aftermath) the opportunity to try things. I'd be happy to include some VP dragons each week that Riot/AM agrees not to contest for several hours. But neither you nor Monrezz named a single Velious target, and it is year 5 of Velious after all.

DetoxxToday at 6:56 PM
vp is 10 years old and several guilds are capable of killing in there. you want to give up mobs you get 50% of or dont drop anything good
give up good mobs and well talk

DetoxxToday at 6:57 PM
if were going to do this id rather it be a more long term thing that just at the whim of what riot feels like doing this week. vp rotation is agreat start

[Not_Mikeo]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

False. But continue spinning. AM is not offering anyone's chips. They are offering something for the entire server. Riot only sees everything offered as what is being taken away from them.

If you're not killing the mobs in the first place what are you actually offering? Reducing lag for others in the zone? You're certainly not offering up your own chips.

[Vianna]

It all goes back to Riot only wanting to give guilds "Several Hours" instead of rotating with them.

[Aethor]

Arthion <Riot>Today at 7:14 PM
Nah, you and we don't need to rotate vp.
am/riot (1 slot) / everyone else (2nd sllot)

DetoxxToday at 7:14 PM
nah

Arthion <Riot>Today at 7:14 PM
Ok.

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

False. But continue spinning. AM is not offering anyone's chips. They are offering something for the entire server. Riot only sees everything offered as what is being taken away from them.

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is what Detoxx had to concede once the first better offer was made and declined. Here you go snookie.

Arthion <Riot>Today at 6:53 PM
I thought AM didn't like rotations? Regardless, the offer was to leave targets up for awhile so that it maintains a competitive feel, while giving smaller guilds (not Riot and Aftermath) the opportunity to try things. I'd be happy to include some VP dragons each week that Riot/AM agrees not to contest for several hours. But neither you nor Monrezz named a single Velious target, and it is year 5 of Velious after all.

DetoxxToday at 6:56 PM
vp is 10 years old and several guilds are capable of killing in there. you want to give up mobs you get 50% of or dont drop anything good
give up good mobs and well talk

DetoxxToday at 6:57 PM
if were going to do this id rather it be a more long term thing that just at the whim of what riot feels like doing this week. vp rotation is agreat start

Sounds like Detoxx wants free mobs in a zone his folks don’t even compete in anymore.

[Not_Mikeo]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It all goes back to Riot only wanting to give guilds "Several Hours" instead of rotating with them.

I think it all really goes back to AM offering to not kill things they don't kill.

[Aethor]

I think Riot should just give a few mobs per week to smaller guilds. Anything AM competes for, will be contested by Riot. This isn't for AM.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Not_Mikeo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you're not killing the mobs in the first place what are you actually offering? Reducing lag for others in the zone? You're certainly not offering up your own chips.

This seems to be the problem with the majority of your Officers too. You guys see the targets as "Yours". They are Rogeans and Nilbogs on their server. I'm sure you guys have done well in contesting them lately just like other people have in other time frames. It happens on this server. It is usually dependent on who is hungrier for content and will put in the most effort.

What I saw proposed in UN was for VP with all guilds which was a good starting point to work things out further.