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Old 09-13-2021, 10:30 AM
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They should go the SAO route and make u nerds look like your human avatars irl...
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Old 09-13-2021, 10:38 AM
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Old 09-13-2021, 11:28 AM
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Old 09-13-2021, 11:36 AM
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The answer is simple. On the next iteration of classic servers to start up, instead of Green and Teal, you could have Purple and Mauve:

Purple: Ultra Sweaty Hardcore Neckbeard Competitive Server -- maybe even PVP enabled for true competition that the hardcore neckbeards keep saying they crave.

Mauve: Casual Server -- raid content rotated, strict rules in place for guilds being added to the rotation to make sure the same hardcore autists who have ruined the fun for casual players on P99 for the last 12 FUCKING YEARS don't continue doing so by just flooding the rotation with guilds of alts.

The only reasons ANYONE would have problems with this I can think of:
1) The neckbeards actually don't want to compete against any other guild designed to compete at their level.
2) The neckbeards literally cannot function without the validation from casual guilds while lording their pixels over them in EC tunnel.
3) It would kill the demand for some sort of RMT still going on behind the scenes that GMs haven't shut down yet that people are using to pay rent which is why it's always seemingly absolutely critical to have one guild dominating the content on the server.

Finally, Live classic servers that had GM-enforced rotations would be represented in this museum of nostalgia, and everyone will be happy and can play the way that was fun for them back in '99-'01.

I wonder how the population would skew.
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Old 09-13-2021, 12:01 PM
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The answer is simple. On the next iteration of classic servers to start up, instead of Green and Teal, you could have Purple and Mauve:

Purple: Ultra Sweaty Hardcore Neckbeard Competitive Server -- maybe even PVP enabled for true competition that the hardcore neckbeards keep saying they crave.

Mauve: Casual Server -- raid content rotated, strict rules in place for guilds being added to the rotation to make sure the same hardcore autists who have ruined the fun for casual players on P99 for the last 12 FUCKING YEARS don't continue doing so by just flooding the rotation with guilds of alts.

The only reasons ANYONE would have problems with this I can think of:
1) The neckbeards actually don't want to compete against any other guild designed to compete at their level.
2) The neckbeards literally cannot function without the validation from casual guilds while lording their pixels over them in EC tunnel.
3) It would kill the demand for some sort of RMT still going on behind the scenes that GMs haven't shut down yet that people are using to pay rent which is why it's always seemingly absolutely critical to have one guild dominating the content on the server.

Finally, Live classic servers that had GM-enforced rotations would be represented in this museum of nostalgia, and everyone will be happy and can play the way that was fun for them back in '99-'01.

I wonder how the population would skew.
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Old 09-13-2021, 12:16 PM
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Old 09-13-2021, 12:34 PM
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What do you guys think we can ask the staff for next to help even the playing field. I have ran out of things to try to get us who don't have the time or will to out into socking 16 hour windows. I just can't justify that kind of time and effort investment into p99. There has got to be something that staff will find reasonable to change to hamper the poop socking guild from being able to take all the content away from normal players.

Any thoughts would be very helpful. I'm fresh out.
If the server staff wants a one guild server then your only option is to join the poopsock guild. In this scenario the server staff (imho) has an obligation to make sure said poopsock guild has an open enrollment and reasonable requirements for everyone on the server to join. To my knowledge all the top p99 guilds have met that criteria over the years.
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Old 09-13-2021, 12:51 PM
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If the server staff wants a one guild server then your only option is to join the poopsock guild. In this scenario the server staff (imho) has an obligation to make sure said poopsock guild has an open enrollment and reasonable requirements for everyone on the server to join. To my knowledge all the top p99 guilds have met that criteria over the years.
Yeah that's an interesting take. We see all the time people saying they will "never see raid content" or whatever. But if you actually look into it, ST, Kingdom, Vanquish, Riot.....all of them have no minimum attendance. All of them have ways to be an active member without devoting insane amounts of time. All of them will take you as long as you at least show some effort to contribute and learn when you do come to raids.

Now you might end up a sort of lesser than top "rank" of raider. You won't ever get BiS loots over someone who puts in a ton of time, but you CAN see any raid in the game. I've been in all of those guilds except one and all of them have had members who were ultra casual but still hopped on and enjoyed the ride when they were able.

The bigger timesink and obstacle for casual players to get to experience raids is just leveling up in the first place, especially leveling through your fifties. I'd be the first to agree that the raid meta on P99 is unhealthy and too often unfun, but on an individual level anyone who wants to experience endgame content can absolutely do so.
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Old 09-13-2021, 02:35 PM
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What do you guys think we can ask the staff for next to help even the playing field. I have ran out of things to try to get us who don't have the time or will to out into socking 16 hour windows. I just can't justify that kind of time and effort investment into p99. There has got to be something that staff will find reasonable to change to hamper the poop socking guild from being able to take all the content away from normal players.

Any thoughts would be very helpful. I'm fresh out.
Even the playing field? For who? The 16 hr window applies to everyone seems pretty fair for those that are insane enough to wait for X mob for X item they want. If the window was 2 hrs people would still complain.

Long story short, its called play on a different server. Hope this helps. Not trying to be mean either it's just the way this server is.. to maintain the *classic* feel (even though many things aren't). EQ is designed to keep those heavily addicted to come back and play it even though upgrades become marginally noticeable. The devs know(original creators were junkies iirc?) mechanics to slow down progression is one of the easiest ways to do it without implementing anything at all.

No one is stopping ya from experiencing "Content" in EQ. Load up another free to play server or sub to live version. Bam. Instances. Don't act as if GMs owe you anything. It's a free to play server what more can you ask for???
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Old 09-13-2021, 02:46 PM
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Yeah that's an interesting take. We see all the time people saying they will "never see raid content" or whatever. But if you actually look into it, ST, Kingdom, Vanquish, Riot.....all of them have no minimum attendance. All of them have ways to be an active member without devoting insane amounts of time. All of them will take you as long as you at least show some effort to contribute and learn when you do come to raids.

Now you might end up a sort of lesser than top "rank" of raider. You won't ever get BiS loots over someone who puts in a ton of time, but you CAN see any raid in the game. I've been in all of those guilds except one and all of them have had members who were ultra casual but still hopped on and enjoyed the ride when they were able.

The bigger timesink and obstacle for casual players to get to experience raids is just leveling up in the first place, especially leveling through your fifties. I'd be the first to agree that the raid meta on P99 is unhealthy and too often unfun, but on an individual level anyone who wants to experience endgame content can absolutely do so.
This.

The problem IS NOT that people who play the game casually can't raid, the problem people have here is that the people who play the game casually CAN'T KILL END GAME TARGETS WITH THEIR SMALL 30 PERSON CASUAL GUILD which, i'm sorry to inform you guys, is extremely fucking classic. MY small family guild I was in from 1999 to 2004 when I stopped playing EQ was hard wiping to Vindi in Luclin era. Want to raid? Join a raid guild.
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