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Old 02-15-2020, 11:19 PM
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if mages got root they would be ridiculously overpowered and could break and solo almost any camp

there is a root earing from cazic 2.0 that had clickable instill, it sold for big bucks and was removed from game pretty quick
If mages got root, AND every spell that a wizard got, essentially merging the two classes, including combining the power of both epics, the pets, the ports, root, snare, etc..

they'd still barely be as good as an enchanter if even.

Slow is the game breaker in classic EQ
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Old 02-16-2020, 12:17 AM
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If mages got root, AND every spell that a wizard got, essentially merging the two classes, including combining the power of both epics, the pets, the ports, root, snare, etc..

they'd still barely be as good as an enchanter if even.

Slow is the game breaker in classic EQ
Yea classic balance is a joke lol, chanter is just stupid broken, to the point it makes the original devs look incompetent as fuck.
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Old 02-16-2020, 12:24 AM
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I've always thought mages should get the epic pet at 60 and the epic should instead be a click root dot. Even with root at 60 mages aren't overpowered, we all have root nets anyways?
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Old 02-16-2020, 12:34 AM
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...........................Pet level........Hp....... Dmg..Bash
Kintaz's Animation 49 37-41 1800-2000 45-53* 22-24

Greater Conjurat: Air 49 37-41 2200-2400 48-56 23-25

Enchanter summoned pet basically a mage air pet... throw haste on it, slow on mob, toss it some runes, you can interrupt casts with mez/stun, hell you can time stuns right before melee round to extend the slow% per say.
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Old 02-16-2020, 04:50 AM
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Maybe the idea was that a mage could play to his strengths and GROUP UP with some people who cover his weaknesses?

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Perhaps one of the deaths of EQ was AAs starting to fill the blanks of what Class A needed that they could steal from Class B, C or D.
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Old 02-16-2020, 12:55 PM
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Maybe the idea was that a mage could play to his strengths and GROUP UP with some people who cover his weaknesses?

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Perhaps one of the deaths of EQ was AAs starting to fill the blanks of what Class A needed that they could steal from Class B, C or D.
What strengths? Mages are basically just weaker necromancers/enchanters. No reason not to give them root aside from flavour.
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Old 02-16-2020, 02:03 PM
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Hmm did not know the difference was that big. Interesting!
Yeah Ench pets are definitely not that great. They can be pretty decent when you first get the next tier of pet spell where you’re still killing mobs a couple levels below that and you chain summon to get the max level pet, but they are really squishy other than that. The only exception is the level 39 pet which has crazy regen.
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Old 02-16-2020, 02:43 PM
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I always thought it would be nice if Mages had a spell to basically summon up a crappier LORE version of the root net. Five charges with maybe with a 2-3 second cast time. Would be very useful but a big enough pain in the ass (being flagged LORE and hence having to re-summon often) to not be overpowered.
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Old 02-16-2020, 07:02 PM
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Yea classic balance is a joke lol, chanter is just stupid broken, to the point it makes the original devs look incompetent as fuck.
"This" classic version is broken, not the original classic. Its been said a million times- enchanter was not the terminator killing machines back during live pre PoP they are here.

@OP it was a balance thing. CC was a real thing and you didnt make a group without someone doing it
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Old 02-16-2020, 07:16 PM
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Enchanter even with slow haste summoned pet CC runes and stun is still wildly OP without charm.
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