Project 1999

Go Back   Project 1999 > Class Discussions > Melee

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 06-20-2019, 01:03 AM
Troxx Troxx is offline
Planar Protector

Troxx's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: A nomad within the rolling BDA sands of Swish's vagina
Posts: 2,083
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iksar_with_a_plan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Well, would you say I fall under the first category? having 11/18 and 12/20 w/ 54% haste (Seahorse belt + PLunder patch)
Spell haste on this topic isn’t relevant. Worn has is relevant only insofar as comparing epic haste vs inferior tradable other slot haste.

11/18 and 12/20 are good ratios. Very good. I’d rate them better than woodsman by a long shot once levels climb into the upper 40s and into the 50s. A woodsman doesn’t exactly compete with swiftblade of Zek and exquisite velium. From a strictly ratio standpoint 11/18 is a lot better than earthcaller. 12/20 is nearly the same ratio as swiftwind (though 40% worn haste and +30atk make it heads and shoulders better). WS doesn’t compete at that level.
__________________
60 War Bard Shm Dru Pal
59 Mnk Nec Mag

B L O O D G U A R D

Member

Everquest Project 1999

Home | About | Forums | Membership


Last edited by Troxx; 06-20-2019 at 01:07 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-21-2019, 05:31 PM
Arm_Chair_Hero Arm_Chair_Hero is offline
Aviak


Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 84
Default

No reason to use woodsman in place of atleast swiftwind at 46+.
Last edited by Arm_Chair_Hero; 06-21-2019 at 05:36 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-21-2019, 11:24 PM
Xaeophi Xaeophi is offline
Fire Giant

Xaeophi's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 816
Default echo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alleriah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
As much as I despise the Woodsman's Staff... It is actually going to perform much better at 30 - mid 40s opposed to the dual wielding. Now Dual wielding looks a lot cooler then looking like Master Roshi from DBZ which should be enough reason to just stick with the swords. ( But, Woodsman Staff will be better most likely ).
The reasoning of this is - Even though 11/18 and 12/20 are pretty decently damage and delay weapons you have to consider that:
Bonus damage increases the higher level you are ending at 60 which is like what.. 13?
At lvl 30 I think you either have 0 bonus damage or its like 1 or something.. You'll still do some nice damage with those weapons you have but you also have to take into account that your skill in dual wield is low and wont be activating as much as a level 60s would. Also.. Bonus damage does not apply to off hand.
If i recall - Dual Wielding usually starts taking the lead over Woodsman's staff somewhere in the mid - high 40s?

To answer your question though... If you're level 30 and already have some decent 1h weapons just save the plat/time. Don't buy the staff unless you just want to try it out just to replace it in 15 levels.
^^^ This should have answered the question. No reason to repeat.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arm_Chair_Hero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
No reason to use woodsman in place of atleast swiftwind at 46+.
Sidenote, If you are one of the fortunate rangers to be rocking both epics at 46. This combo will suffice until 60. Slow Proc on main hand will make the biggest difference if you're trying to grind it out to 60.
__________________
Xaeophi Do`Urden - 60 Dark Elf Warlord
The Mystical Order
Last edited by Xaeophi; 06-21-2019 at 11:34 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 06-21-2019, 11:25 PM
Snaggles Snaggles is offline
Fire Giant


Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 835
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arm_Chair_Hero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
No reason to use woodsman in place of atleast swiftwind at 46+.
I’m curious with 36% haste (CoF/CoCW) when a woodsman is out-dps’ed by an epic and 10/18 or 12/21 primary (Zek’s too rich for me but would be interesting as well). I’m 57 with a CoCW and a Woodsy. If I have the chance to get a stone I’ll certainly start the quest but as a 99% solo player the droppable liquidity is attractive. Theorycrafting does give a nod to 2h in many cases as well.

I guess someday I’ll be able to parse it against every other Swiftwinded 60 ranger and answer the age old question nobody is asking, “What if I was extremely lazy and never got my epic?”.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06-22-2019, 12:04 AM
Ripqozko Ripqozko is offline
Orc


Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 43
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Im curious with 36% haste (CoF/CoCW) when a woodsman is out-dpsed by an epic and 10/18 or 12/21 primary (Zeks too rich for me but would be interesting as well). Im 57 with a CoCW and a Woodsy. If I have the chance to get a stone Ill certainly start the quest but as a 99% solo player the droppable liquidity is attractive. Theorycrafting does give a nod to 2h in many cases as well.

I guess someday Ill be able to parse it against every other Swiftwinded 60 ranger and answer the age old question nobody is asking, What if I was extremely lazy and never got my epic?.
Sell cocw buy stone MQ, have plat left over, grats on swiftwind and better haste
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 06-22-2019, 01:57 AM
Alleriah Alleriah is offline
Aviak

Alleriah's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 58
Default

Snaggles, I wouldnt feel too left out. Hit 60. Join AM. Get better weapons then the epics.
I rarely use my Swiftwind but occasionally take it out for some fights to maximize DPS (using its ATK bonus ). Tolan's sword for example goes for near nothing DKP wise ( I got mine for 5 dkp ) , and parses for about the same.
I do use the earthcaller still when soloing nasty mobs that need to be slowed. I've also had it proc on certain raid mobs before an ench/shammy slow could land on it! 50% Slow is huge!
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 07-05-2019, 09:48 PM
loramin loramin is offline
Planar Protector

loramin's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 4,970
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Can you copy it and start futzing? When I was still active, I was planning on adding some more features (I think the forumla is hard coded to warrior numbers right now) and maybe even making it into a web app. Perhaps if I start up again, I'll try that out.
I just came across this post. If you ever want I could code up a wiki version.

Just imagine the simplest interface possible (eg. the user has text boxes to input level, weapon #1 damage/delay, weapon #2 damage/delay, and then it displays damage per second). Describe it to me, and then give me the formula to calculate everything, and I should be able to make it work.
__________________

Loramin Frostseer, Oracle of the Tribunal <Anonymous>
The wiki's Per-Level/Treasure Guides have hundreds of places to earn XP or plat.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:34 PM.


Everquest is a registered trademark of Daybreak Game Company LLC.
Project 1999 is not associated or affiliated in any way with Daybreak Game Company LLC.
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.