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Old 10-21-2020, 10:36 AM
Hrothgar Hrothgar is offline
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It really is amazing how far people will go to rationalize their fear of instancing, which is really just a fear of having another elf with the same pixel outfit you have on in the Free wifi zone outside the Starbucks.

Look at that Wailing text wall.
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Old 10-21-2020, 10:49 AM
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It really is amazing how far people will go to rationalize their fear of instancing, which is really just a fear of having another elf with the same pixel outfit you have on in the Free wifi zone outside the Starbucks.

Look at that Wailing text wall.
If that's anyone's motivation it doesn't even make sense anyway. Instancing would mean every guild gets a Vulak every week. Rotating Vulak means there's still only one Vulak per cycle/quake so the influx of loot doesn't change. You still have to compete with your DKP against the rest of the guild and half the time people dump everything they have and promptly quit the game anyway so its as if the loot doesn't even exist. Calling rotations "instancing" is absurd.

The problem as mentioned right at the beginning are all the people who insist that non-instanced means you have to be adversarial. This game isn't competitive its cooperative, it always has been. That's why they eventually moved away from open world spawns to instanced raiding and why EQ PvP was never even half as popular as PvE.

Most people just like getting together with their group/raid/guild and killing shit, not fighting over it. The game design offers very little functionality to enjoy it by competing, any indications otherwise are just issues of overcrowding that was exacerbated by the tech limitations of the time and lack of foresight for the game/genre's popularity.
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:01 AM
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Not calling rotations “instancing,” I’m calling rotations the most annoying mental gymnastics imaginable to deny other people (who promptly quit the game, as you said) Pixels that are old enough to get a drink at the bar.

Who fuggin cares if 10 people have a Palladius’? Hell, who cares if 1,000 people do? This content is already trivial and has been for 6 years.
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:05 AM
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Not calling rotations “instancing,” I’m calling rotations the most annoying mental gymnastics imaginable to deny other people (who promptly quit the game, as you said) Pixels that are old enough to get a drink at the bar.

Who fuggin cares if 10 people have a Palladius’? Hell, who cares if 1,000 people do? This content is already trivial and has been for 6 years.
last time these guilds were raid suspended the entire server couldn't kill vyemm

not saying it's not trivial but it is what it is

people like having things other people don't, why is that a hard concept to understand
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:24 AM
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The entire server couldn’t do it because, out of a population of 300 raid viable players, all 300 are in those guilds. 404: does not compute - that’s like saying “Last time the NBA was suspended, all the high school basketball teams couldn’t pull in the ad revenue.”

My point is: hella people already have these pixels. You are not unique and different. They’ve been around for, going on, 3x as long as the expansion lasted itself... when more and better pixels dropped in a new environment and created new styles of play and player conduct.

Get a grip, guys. It’s essentially vying for who beat Mario with the most stars at this point, only instead of turning the console off, you’re trying to justify these absurd behaviors on the player-side.
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:28 AM
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The entire server couldn’t do it because, out of a population of 300 raid viable players, all 300 are in those guilds. 404: does not compute - that’s like saying “Last time the NBA was suspended, all the high school basketball teams couldn’t pull in the ad revenue.”

My point is: hella people already have these pixels. You are not unique and different. They’ve been around for, going on, 3x as long as the expansion lasted itself... when more and better pixels dropped in a new environment and created new styles of play and player conduct.

Get a grip, guys. It’s essentially vying for who beat Mario with the most stars at this point, only instead of turning the console off, you’re trying to justify these absurd behaviors on the player-side.
Sorry you don't got warder loot
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:33 AM
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I did, it was on my bazaar mule and promptly sold for probably 25k, because the shit became garbage like 600 days after it was gotten?

What are we now on? Day 1,800 of you nerds using that tired suppository of a line?
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:34 AM
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Sorry you don't got warder loot
Warder loot drops weekly on TAKP.
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:37 AM
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I'm not afraid of instancing because the makers of this project will never implement it. It goes against the project directives - classic EQ content.

In the same vein rotations will never be enforced. Policing a competitive raid scene is too much GM effort. Policing who gets to be in the rotation and who gets dropped is even more GM effort and also against the project directives.
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:39 AM
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I'm not afraid of instancing because the makers of this project will never implement it. It goes against the project directives - classic EQ content.

In the same vein rotations will never be enforced. Policing a competitive raid scene is too much GM effort. Policing who gets to be in the rotation and who gets dropped is even more GM effort and also against the project directives.
You say this as if the GMs aren’t just sitting behind the mirrored glass laughing at what they’ve created.

Classic EQ was toxic af, that’s why it evolved. Literal babies died because figurative babies shoved them in closets to catch a batphone; that’s a real Classic EQ story.
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