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Old 09-06-2024, 11:49 AM
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it's my god given right as an american to like ai art if i want
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Old 09-06-2024, 04:29 PM
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AI will be open source!

This means no rich people.

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Old 09-06-2024, 05:08 PM
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if you think art is just "wow pretty picture" and don't think beyond that, then sure you're "allowed" to like ai art i guess, but my question is why would you? it's garbage produced by a garbage factory with 0 meaning or context
"meaning" is completely subjective, and the context is that a robot (made by humans) made it. Much like my paint brush is thousands of little bristles that I'm steering. That's not cheating, right? Or should we only like fingerpainting?

Humans produce lots and lots and lots of really shitty art. So does AI. I don't see the problem.
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Old 09-06-2024, 05:31 PM
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Humans produce lots and lots and lots of really shitty art.
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Old 09-06-2024, 05:48 PM
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It's OK for you to like A.I art. Or any art. That is not the point im trying to get across.

If you think A.I will stop at "make me a pretty picture based on picaso style" you are stupid and naive.

All A.I art would be zero without humans. It is only some art produced by humans that really is good (whatever that means) and that is OK.
Some human artists would be pathetic without the help of A.I. tools. That's OK too.

I love the song mashups (i think they'd use A.I tools) and the I'm so indicted song starring the Red teams captain. Hilarious.

Last time I looked that does not generate billions of dollars.

Opensource has famously and repeatedly been used in proprietry softwares. Depending on the terms of the license and thats ok, so something being opensourced means very little in the way of protection against misuse later.
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Old 09-06-2024, 05:55 PM
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Oh also, on the topic of meaning and context:

Professional orchestras have historically (or at least since the 20th century) always held blind auditions; that is they only hear the playing of the applicant and have no other knowledge about them. They don't know their race, gender, height, whether they're ugly or attractive, whether they're fat or thin, whether they're rich or poor. (Sadly this is being replaced by woke auditions where they are VERY interested in your race, but that's still pretty fringe).

Why do they do this? Why don't they care about the all-important context more than the pure stimulus?
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Old 09-06-2024, 06:01 PM
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I wonder if after the great war between humans and AI, after billions of people are lost, but humans are victorious.

If we'll immediately start squabbling over cultures races and religions again.
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Old 09-06-2024, 06:06 PM
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I wonder if after the great war between humans and AI, after billions of people are lost, but humans are victorious.

If we'll immediately start squabbling over cultures races and religions again.
We'll still be humans, so yes.
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Old 09-06-2024, 06:20 PM
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"meaning" is completely subjective
subjectivity is the entire point of art, genius
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Old 09-06-2024, 06:26 PM
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if you think art is just "wow pretty picture" and don't think beyond that, then sure you're "allowed" to like ai art i guess, but my question is why would you? it's garbage produced by a garbage factory with 0 meaning or context
Can text be art?

I will attempt to perform an art, as an example.

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As we shape society, society shapes us."
Is this art?
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