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View Poll Results: How do you feel about Enchanter's power level? Multiple choice allowed. | |||
Non-classically overpowered and needs nerf | 66 | 33.33% | |
Non-classically overpowered and does not need nerf | 19 | 9.60% | |
Classically overpowered and needs nerf (Bard, Nec, etc examples) | 23 | 11.62% | |
Classically overpowered and does not need nerf | 88 | 44.44% | |
Trivializes content and needs nerf | 42 | 21.21% | |
Trivializes content and does not need nerf | 16 | 8.08% | |
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 198. You may not vote on this poll |
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I guess if it's for the greater good and the protection of Tunare...
Jk hope u know I'm just trolling it's just a game. One I obviously take to seriously. | ||
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I was browsing old newsgroups last night and it was really interesting. There are endless mentions that charm breaking was very dangerous even with stuns, etc and fighting outdoors. All the same old excuses are also debunked there. Pretty much everyone knows CHA is important for Enchanter and what do you see? Not people confirming CHA is great, people complaining they put their starting stats in CHA and now they realize it has almost zero impact on charm even with testing data. It seems to help a lot going from 50 to 75, etc but after about 125ish everyone agrees further increases do nothing noticeable. People talking about charming green mobs and it still breaks "randomly" often in less than a minute. Lots of Enchanters begging Verant to fix charm duration and confirming that it is mostly useless. The only acknowledged use is to "CC" giants immune to stun/mez and it's only discussed in a complaining way that charm on giants to CC just results in death all the time and lasts 20 seconds on a good cast. Unlike people trying to claim the discussion of charming giants is cause it's so awesome and OP it's actually because Enchanters are mad nothing else works and that charm just gets them killed. Essentially the Monk/puller becomes the CC agent and that pissed a lot of Enchanters off not made them happy they can easily charm giants for massive DPS. Lots of complaints about DPS in general actually and no mention of pet DPS being good or making up for the lack of damage. Don't worry it just takes time. | |||
Last edited by azxten; 03-23-2021 at 04:27 PM..
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We have an in era enchanter guide on the wiki talking about how charm is the enchanters most powerful tool lol. Keep crying...but at any rate glad you found yourself a hobby | |||
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It seems to be mostly based in the Velious and Luclin era. So mostly in era, but there's a chance some of it is out of scope. The author calls out that small updates and changes were made over the winter 2001-2002 holiday. The guide also explicitly calls out "[thank you to] Aaldin Dbrain of the Prexus server, who finally was able to get me to dust off the charm spells". So initially the author didn't value charm either, perhaps due to bugs or tuning that were quashed over time. That being said, I think it's solid evidence, but it actually supports the narrative that formulae on p99 for Enchanter spells/skills may be non-classic. For example, from the guide: "* Charm resist rates are minorly impacted by higher Charisma." "* Charm duration is random, and not visibly affected by Charisma." Contradicts the common knowledge on p99 that "charm durations are linearly proportional to charisma" https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=92423 You may argue that they didn't do thorough research back in the day, but a linear relationship is pretty darn obvious. Does anyone know if there's counter-evidence provide to justify why Charisma affects charm duration here? | |||
Last edited by Keebz; 03-23-2021 at 06:55 PM..
Reason: Grammar
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#269
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Imagine trying to charm on shitty internet from 1999-2001.
Or random crashes or downtimes. We need to emulate internet from 1999! It's the only solution.
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No longer active, thank you for the years of fun. No alt account and I do not post on the P99 forums. Told this to Rogean, Nilbog & Menden. | ||
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Imagine reading that fighting outdoors is dangerous and then continuing further as if there's any credibility left in what is being said.
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