Sat in a philosophy class today.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BMI 27.3. You're about 15 pounds overweight.

BMI is a very poor metric for determining if someone is overweight. A basic example is if someone has more muscle mass, since muscle weights considerably more than fat, they will be seen as "overweight" if you do not include a physical evaluation. BMI is more useful when combined with water displacement, but the best way to make such a determination is direct observation.

Certainly, some dude on a forum for 14 year old elf simulators shouldn't be telling someone they are overweight based simply on a BMI. That's ridiculous.

[Alawen]

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BMI tends to underestimate obesity. If he's a massively ripped athlete covered with lean muscle mass, I'll be happy to eat my words. Until then, I'm going to stick with 15 pounds overweight.

Bikers tend to be very lean with not much upper body development. Lance Armstrong is almost exactly the same height and weighs 165. You really want to go with 25 pounds more lean muscle than Lance Armstrong?

[Ektar]

even if muscle weighed less than fat it'd still negate the significance of a bmi chart

[Alawen]

For athletes under 15% body fat, BMI isn't useful. Those people tend not to justify their weight on RnF.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Ektar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

even if muscle weighed less than fat it'd still negate the significance of a bmi chart

I prefer the 'does your fat jiggle when you brush your teeth?' test.

[r00t]

philosophy stupid

BMI stupid

welcome to year 1003

[Barkingturtle]

I'm 5'8" and vacillate between 135 and 140. My abdominal muscles are individually defined -- I shit you not it's a real thing you can do, too.

This is the result of a vegan diet, lots of outdoor exercise and a less-than-tall father. Probably helps that I never got into anime, too.

[Ephirith]

BMI is useful as a very, very rough estimate of body composition and nothing more, because you can put it together with minimal data and measurement.

Using it to make a claim as specific as "you're 15 pounds overweight" is pretty bad

[Droxx]

You're the same height as Lance Armstrong and 25 pounds heavier. And he was on roids. You might be fat!

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Ektar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I took philosophy 101. I went to class the first day and some dude was "that guy" who said stupid shit thinking it was all profound and crap. I never went back.

I got a B+

you had a bad teacher then. ask for your money back.