Best wizard race for pve/pvp?

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by sajbert [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey bud, you’re the one claiming that wiz epic is ”one of the easiest to obtain right now” and I’m disagreeing with that. No need to be a dickhead about it. Up to OP to decide what to believe.

A) You're wrong
B) You're the dickhead

Originally Posted by sajbert [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your argument is basically ”oh just bring a raid force on a quake”, which massively understates the issue. Yes, we all need a guild but no guild is gonna pop VS just for you on a quake. 99% of the time you will need to put in the work.

C) This happened JUST YESTERDAY on blue. It is entirely within the realm of possibilities.

Originally Posted by sajbert [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is it as hard as mage epic? Hell no. But one of the easiest? No way. Druid, Paladin, Monk, Rogue, Monk, Shaman are all easier by a mile. That’s popular opinion as well.

D) No epic can be done solo. Each of your examples of "easy" epics is going to require a raid at some point. The wizard epic is much shorter, though. That's what makes it easy.

OP, please do not listen to this fool who doesn't understand raids or guilds at all. They're probably just sour that nobody likes them enough to help with their epic.

The wizard epic is highly attainable on P99, whether or not this thread has been derailed.

[papito]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A) You're wrong
B) You're the dickhead



C) This happened JUST YESTERDAY on blue. It is entirely within the realm of possibilities.



D) No epic can be done solo. Each of your examples of "easy" epics is going to require a raid at some point. The wizard epic is much shorter, though. That's what makes it easy.

OP, please do not listen to this fool who doesn't understand raids or guilds at all. They're probably just sour that nobody likes them enough to help with their epic.

The wizard epic is highly attainable on P99, whether or not this thread has been derailed.

Ty for the advice Samoht, i don't know if ill ever get high enough level to get the epic but it def does look very doable compared to some of the other ones.

[Kirdan]

To answer the original question: Human. Why do anything if you don't look good doing it?

[sajbert]

Good luck on your wiz OP. Sorry about the shitshow, shouldn't have entertained his shitposting.

[E-Queue]

Just wanted to mention that the Vermilion Robe of Torrefaction drops off Velketor the Sorcerer and is, in my opinion, this single most important item you could want on a wizard. It's clickable at level 40 and gives you a sustained 42 dps mana-free*. A wizard with a clicky robe is very solid dps in groups on top of their other useful abilities. If we're discussing epics and high level wizard drops, I think we gotta mention this thing too. It'll change your wizard experience more than anything else.

*With a 15 second cast time, you miss several med ticks so it's not actually mana-free.

[sajbert]

Originally Posted by E-Queue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just wanted to mention that the Vermilion Robe of Torrefaction drops off Velketor the Sorcerer and is, in my opinion, this single most important item you could want on a wizard. It's clickable at level 40 and gives you a sustained 42 dps mana-free*. A wizard with a clicky robe is very solid dps in groups on top of their other useful abilities. If we're discussing epics and high level wizard drops, I think we gotta mention this thing too. It'll change your wizard experience more than anything else.

*With a 15 second cast time, you miss several med ticks so it's not actually mana-free.

Never had the Velk robe. Does anyone know how it compare to the VP Rend one?

[E-Queue]

Originally Posted by sajbert [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never had the Velk robe. Does anyone know how it compare to the VP Rend one?

VP robe is certainly better (54 dps vs 42 dps iirc), but a bit tougher to obtain. It's also magic based damage so is a bit less reliable than the Velk robe's fire damage for some mobs. You really can't go wrong either way.

The other clicky dd options are generally not worth clicking IMO aside from Solists Icy Wand at low levels or one of the others if something is near zero health and fleeing.

[enjchanter]

wizard epic is one of the easiest epics in the game
you need 3 pieces and theyre all trivial to get

[PatChapp]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wizard epic is one of the easiest epics in the game
you need 3 pieces and theyre all trivial to get

The phinny staff is easy but can be time consuming, I did around 25 phinny kills getting my water staff and in that time only 2 wizard staffs dropped. Likely bad rng involved there, but it can still take a while. At least on green VS is very contested,but very possible.

[mattydef]

I managed to get a velk robe and orb on my wizard alt at level 40 and it completely broke the game. That's obviously not realistic but having a clicky nuke on a wizard is amazing. The wizard epic is probably middle of the pack in difficulty but definitely doable, and honestly, worst case scenario, you're just as effective in groups and raids even without one. It's always fun to be in a wizard group and compete against the rogues for experience on raids.