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02-10-2021, 12:24 PM
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Enchanter Mesmerize does mem wipe too frequently
The Enchanter level 4 mez spell seems to mem blur every time. My understanding from past discussions of how overpowered Enchanter is was that this spell is only supposed to have a small chance to mem blur. I mentioned it seems to do it every time for me and others disagreed.
Here is a log I just took of chain casting mez on a green con flame goblin and then a blue con fire goblin. As you can see by the aggro message from the goblin it is forgetting about me on every cast and then reaggroing since I am standing next to it. To further prove this I hide immediately after a mez and con the mob indifferently confirming it has forgotten me and then when dropping hide I get the same aggro message. This is about 10-20 mez attempts which all successfully mem blur. Is this normal? This is extremely OP and is one of the many issues remaining with Enchanter that makes them ridiculous overpowered beyond anything that existed in classic. Enchanter charm is too successful, mez mem blurs too often, the enchanter pet has way too much HP, and channeling rates are too successful on P99 which helps Enchanter more than any other class. Class is still OP and broken beyond belief is my impression. Quote:
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02-10-2021, 09:12 PM
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1% chance to mem blur, happening 100% I find it really interesting how people come cry in bug report threads about essentially nothing. Channeling was the same way. Pet HP amounts was same. People complaining and crying about whatever and in the end we find the evidence. | |||
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Last edited by azxten; 02-10-2021 at 09:15 PM..
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02-10-2021, 09:41 PM
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Aggro comments from rmt plat pharmers that use enchies
Op posted a robust log and now some basic allakhazaming will show that the spell wasn’t supposed to be 100 percent.
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02-11-2021, 01:36 AM
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If you're going to make such absolutely ridiculous claims, please at least provide real proof. The least you could do here is record it. That "log" proves nothing and there's no way to know that's your actual log that was produced.
It's definitely not a 1% chance, though. I don't know why it says that on the wiki and on Allakhazam (however, on Allakhazam the first post explicitly mentions that the mem blur rate is much higher than 1%). This site from 2001 claims a 95% chance of wipe (http://web.archive.org/web/200105050...asp?SpellID=20). Other websites I'm seeing from early 2000's claim that mem blur success decreases as the NPC level increases. I just tried it out on an ape that was green to me in emerald jungle and it blurred 4/10 times. | ||
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Last edited by TripSin; 02-11-2021 at 01:59 AM..
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02-11-2021, 02:52 AM
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Old mem blur and Mez Post Then when you do that get a real test going (in that post someone did 96 Mez casts to see if they were close to what was expected) and actually post a log that shows what you say it does. You are making an assumption that because it is giving it's aggro message again that it was blurred. Maybe that is correct and maybe it isn't, but you haven't proved that here and it could just as easily be a side effect of the mob being mez'd rather than blurred. Once you have proven that what you say is happening is actually happening - i.e. 100% blur rate with a large sample size (not the 12 casts you have in your log) - then actually work out the math given your stats, the mobs level and the spells "bonus" to the mem blur chance (in this case 1%) and see if it lines up with what is expected. If you still think this calculation is wrong then you need in era evidence with specific mob levels and specific CHA stats and a decent enough sample size to show that the calculation currently being used is incorrect. I mean maybe if you get enough in era posts then you won't need all of that, but you have to do better than this garbage for evidence. | |||
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