Possible for Ukraine to beat back Russia?

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You’re definitely right that Biden fucked up by not taking this more seriously sooner, especially if they already had the intelligence, which it seems like they did

I think it’s worth pointing out that this is such a catastrophic blunder on Putin’s part that no one probably thought it possible. Notice how the Germans are trying to stop buying Russian hydrocarbons and investing in their own military after decades of contrary policy? Smart people like the Germans never saw this coming. But yes, that is a totally legitimate criticism of Biden. However, I don’t think anything stops Putin. He’s a crazy person. He has not made Russia stronger. Finland and Sweden will join NATO, Moldova will join the EU….

He’s made more salient why we used to cherish democracy. This was a wake up call in terms of why we put up with some of the bull shit inefficiencies and frustrations of democracy. The alternative is clearly worse and somehow always results in a person holding power who is manifestly unfit to wield it

Good post. I agree with all of this.

[Gustoo]

Ya quality post.

[Jimjam]

Some one mentioned free missiles, but the truth is a lot of the hardware being received is actually being ‘given’ on loan payments. The weat is monetising Russian aggression.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Tethler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, please. Trump is giving Putin verbal blowjobs at every possible opportunity. He would not have stopped him. He'd likely have been Putin's biggest cheerleader, bending over backwards to justify it while calling Putin a genius for the 15th time.

Brandon called him a killer and he invaded anyways

Pudding didn't even invade on Trump's watch

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Brandon called him a killer and he invaded anyways

Pudding didn't even invade on Trump's watch

If Trump has won in 2020, I think Putin would have still invaded. Not everything is about us.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Tethler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If Trump has won in 2020, I think Putin would have still invaded. Not everything is about us.

Why not just invade when he was in office

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why not just invade when he was in office

There could be a million reasons, but I'm not Putin, so I can't answer that.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Tethler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There could be a million reasons, but I'm not Putin, so I can't answer that.

Huh?

You just said he would have probably invaded anyways if Trump was reelected

FFS

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Huh?

You just said he would have probably invaded anyways if Trump was reelected

FFS

I said that because I don't believe who is sitting in the WH was a factor. He gave his reasons for invading (even if they were bullshit) and they had nothing to do with the US, but he hasn't talked about why he didn't go in years ago as far as I'm aware.

[Jimjam]

Some one mentioned Putin was scared of Merkel, which delayed the invasion until she retired... it didn’t seem to stop all the other Russian invasions. I’m not saying Trump would have prevented this one, rather Putin pretty much does what he wants regardless of other countries leadership.