Best tank class (group edition)

[fadetree]

One for Ranger. Rangers can proc slow pretty frequently and snap aggro all day. I actually would say Pallie but not listed.

[Crede]

Iksar sk with Greenmist

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by baakss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Twin towers? Did you confuse server chat with RNF?

Thank you for taking time to relay your considered opinions.

Not really. In a recent bard thread there was an interesting post on tanking, which while tangential to the main focus of the thread seemed worthy of further thought.

Polls are improved with a spoil ballot optio., I included the option in a fashion that respected forum traditions, with a nod towards the current scout whinge thread.

You'll also note the poll is non anonymous so bard sympathisers can be rounded up and sent to reeducation camps.

[d3r14k]

Originally Posted by Lordgordon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Voted Retard

That was not in the poll options, SIR.

Voted: Other. Warrior gets superior disciplines and is the best tank for raid situations. Paladin wins in 6 man situations because of better snap aggro and the ability to save the Enchanter or Cleric's ass with Lay on Hands if shit hits the fan.

[Bardp1999]

Sub 45 Bards are awesome tanks. Post 45 their lack of mitigation really starts to shine as they absorb all the clerics mana

[DiogenesThaDogg]

Rangers tank Mistmoore pretty well in the mid-20s.

[jolanar]

I vote (Other) as it's pretty clear to me the best non raid tank is aoe stuns.

[Darkatar]

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pallie but not listed.

Seconded. Was in a king group@ZO and the enc DC'd with a charmed hasted+weaponized+geared (jumpy robe, -mr gear, etc) live frog.while the monk was doing a 2pull

Group members (Self)Cleric, Rogue, Monk, Enc, Pal, Mag

Enc was pretargetted for break situations.
Frog starts wrecking the enc. (60%)
PATCH heal (90%)
Continues wrecking enc (50%)
Enc isn't casting, I'm worried he's getting stunned out of casts.
STUN@Expet->Lands
Enc stands motionless
F6 to target the enc, nothing happens.
At this point I notice the enc isn't in the group, I rotate my camera and see the LD flag on his long ass name.
Continues wrecking enc (15%, lowhp aggro snaps room)
Enc is going down.

CHOICE 1: DA. I don't want this. Hasted pet will definitely rip up the group and I won't be able to rez solo in ZO.
CHOICE 2: BE THE CC! I also don't really want to do this, but at this point the paladin is chain stunning because we have no slows, a shroom priest + war in addition to the ex-pet frog in the ZO. The mage wasn't using earth (was epic or air for stunning healers idr).

I take choice 2.

ROOT->Resist
HITS YOU! (70%)
Pal FOL's loose Expet so it stops sticking to me
CE Pal
ROOT->LandsBreaks. Why are you charming this shit?
ROOT->LandsBreaks. Internally Screaming
(aggro snaps back to me,FOL Fade likely)
HITS YOU! (40%)
Pal FOL's a second time but was likely a resist as the aggro soon switched to me
CE self (60%) (Snaps Expet)
HITS YOU! (35%)

DA DA DA DA! (macro to group)
ExPet goes loose hitting people while the tank is FOLing to keep it mostly on him (keep in mind he's also tanking the shroom priest and war while this is happening)
CE TIC (55%)

I say to the group "I'll root move from mid"
Amazingly nobody is shitting their pants and the frog is almost instantly relocated to a back corner by the ZO pad.
At this point, Enc is dead, most people are ~50%-60%hp, but the pal tank is suprisingly still above 80. I've got about 1 CH/ce left with a root or two in the tank, or about 6-7 roots.

At this point I notice *A myconid warrior yawns*
This rogue had switched in a locustlure the moment the enc died out of instinct.

ROOT Expet->Lands!
CE TIC (75%)
Shroom priest goes down, Group starts killing the shroom war, it's down to about 85% when;
ROOT BREAK!
HITS YOU! (45%)
STUN! -> Resist
CE TIC (65%)
ROOT! -> Resist Wtf did tash AND malosini fade?????
HITS YOU! (35%)
ROOT->LandsHITS YOU! (15%)
HITS YOU! (LOADING PLEASE WAIT...)

I think it's game over at this point.

Group is silent
30 seconds pass
Me: "Who's dead atm?"
No response, I assume people are LOADING PLEASE WAIT.
Mage: "Pet inc"
20-30 seconds pass
Monk: "FUCK!"
Me: "You die?"
Monk: "yeah"
A few more seconds pass
Mage: "Last pet"
~60sec of silence
Mage: "I'm dead"
~30seconds pass
What's going on?
~60seconds of silence
Pal: OK REZ inc you ready gream??
Me: (Internally-UHHHHH????) Gsay-Yes.
I receive and take a pal rez. Pal is at 50%, rogue is BWing pal and at 60% himself.

Turns out the last root before I died actually held out, they killed the shroom before the frog got loose, then the mage started sacrificing DS'd pets to the expet frog. When the pet got low, the paladin rooted it and caught med tics and the monk tanked while the mage whipped up a new pet. Monk drew the short stick and failed his mend -and- flop and ate shit while the mob was palarooted, but the last mage pet was already up so it wasn't in vain. Expet then killed the pet, the mage, switched to the pal around 30% remaining hp on the frog and the pal stunned it while the rogue hit it with some snare (OSS or SBD or something). Got it fleeing and won.

After getting set back up with a rep enc and killing again, It donned on me how amazing it was that everyone worked so well in a super shitty situation without anyone flipping out or pointing fingers (Likely due to the paladin rez pulling together the save).
I don't remember who if anyone got the LOH but i'm pretty sure that was part of the save too.

Can't remember the Enc's name but they never came back and in the following days didn't spot them in the zone. They were a good enc just got unlucky with that DC, hope they're ok. Don't know who snagged the pet gear either(if anyone, lol).


TL;DR A Paladin tank salvaged a bad moment in king and I'll never forget it.

Honorable mention to the prepared rogue too but this is a tank thread.

[fadetree]

Hah great story. Good group.

[Teppler]

Different classes for different situations. In group situations theres times when Pally/SK/Ranger snap aggro is king. There's times when that doesn't matter and monk will be better. There's times when warrior is king too. I have to say, things are pretty well balanced.