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Old 11-04-2012, 01:49 AM
Hasbinlulz Hasbinlulz is offline
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This video is really good. I don't usually like Dawkins outside of his work in biology, but he is straight up in this debate. Furthermore, C. Pell has the most astute arguments and public conception of "god" that I have ever seen. If you like Dawkins, you've probably seen this, but here you go.

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Old 11-04-2012, 01:55 AM
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everyones got an opinion

mine is that if you do not believe there is something more intelligent than us out in the universe you are close minded.. we are still very primitive, on the cusp of understanding how little we really know
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Old 11-04-2012, 02:30 PM
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i think you are all great!
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Old 11-04-2012, 02:38 PM
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You also believe the world is only 6,000 years old and think evolution is a conspiracy theory against Jesus.
i think the OP is on to something
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:28 PM
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Negative. Being a biggoting atheist is a bad thing. )
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:09 PM
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:50 PM
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Old 11-04-2012, 11:56 PM
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:14 AM
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you can believe in God without believing in Jesus, in fact the majority of people in the world do
the chick in ur avatar is making me believe in jesus
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:31 PM
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This video is really good. I don't usually like Dawkins outside of his work in biology, but he is straight up in this debate. Furthermore, C. Pell has the most astute arguments and public conception of "god" that I have ever seen. If you like Dawkins, you've probably seen this, but here you go.

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Great video. Dawkins needs some work on his interpersonal skills, though. I found it awkward when he kept asking why the audience was laughing. Also, while I understood what he meant when he said something to the effect that asking "why" (I believe he was thinking purpose) is "not a valid question" (I think he meant not scientifically relevant), I thought he could have stated this better. "Why" is obviously a pretty important question to most people.

I also found some of C. Pell's responses to be a bit insincere to appear more moderate (at least not representing the Catholic church's core values). He basically said atheists can get to heaven, we evolved from lower primates (thus allowing for an older earth and acceptance of evolutionary principles), and that much of the old testament isn't necessary litteral. He did, however, say that the wafer/wine at communion DOES transform to the blood and body of Christ, although he admits that physically there is no change. He was almost unintelligible when he described this as metaphysical and refused to say it was symbolic.

Anyway, thanks for the view.
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