If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by dragonfists [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

everyones got an opinion

mine is that if you do not believe there is something more intelligent than us out in the universe you are close minded.. we are still very primitive, on the cusp of understanding how little we really know

You need to look at the evolution of technology and the exponential curve that technological evolution progresses on.

Why do you think someone is close-minded when you obviously don't understand all(or even some) of the factors of technological evolution.

Intelligence evolves exponentially. If you know anything about how an exponential curve works you would realize once you get past the knee of the curve, from say a chart that starts with time 0, then those exponents start adding up very, very, very quickly. You basically reach near infinite progression of near to nothing on the timeline. If there was other intelligence out there. It would be made apparent rather quickly.
There is a good chance we are the most intelligent beings out there.

[Hasbinlulz]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You need to look at the evolution of technology and the exponential curve that technological evolution progresses on.

Why do you think someone is close-minded when you obviously don't understand all(or even some) of the factors of technological evolution.

Intelligence evolves exponentially. If you know anything about how an exponential curve works you would realize once you get past the knee of the curve, from say a chart that starts with time 0, then those exponents start adding up very, very, very quickly. You basically reach near infinite progression of near to nothing on the timeline. If there was other intelligence out there. It would be made apparent rather quickly.
There is a good chance we are the most intelligent beings out there.

That a "god of the unknowns" argument Alarti, and you should feel ashamed of yourself for making it.

[Hasbinlulz]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is a good chance we are the most intelligent beings out there.

Specifically this statement is something you should feel ashamed of.

[Reptak]

Bill Mauher can be a pompous jerk. Well he usually is. But Religulous is one of my favorite movies. Not because it bashes religions in all forms (it does), but he at least allows some insight into different perspectives. One of my favorite parts was the interview with the Vatican scientist. The Vatican scientist eloquently explained that there is no science in Christianity. Modern science, as we know it, came into being centuries after the Bible. He stated that the fundamentalist approach to religion is doing a diservice to Christianity and that religion and science seek to answer different questions and are not mutually exclusive.

Make no mistake, I understand it was a completely biased movie that was edited (and made entertaining) with the sole goal of supporting his point. I just felt it opened my eyes a bit more and gave me more of a voice.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Hasbinlulz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Specifically this statement is something you should feel ashamed of.

Why? Because you belief differently?

[Diggles]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why? Because you belief differently?

DO YOU BELIEF DIFFERENTLY?

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Diggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DO YOU BELIEF DIFFERENTLY?

I hypothesize differently !

[Alawen]

Originally Posted by dragonfists [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

everyones got an opinion mine is that if you do not believe there is something more intelligent than us out in the universe you are close minded.. we are still very primitive, on the cusp of understanding how little we really know

This is a baseless argument and you are completely ignoring everything we know about epistemology. If you want to make an argument like "there is something more intelligent than us out in the universe," the philosophic burden of proof is on you to justify your position.

We are primitive compared to what? We are more intellectually advanced than any other organism we've discovered, and our current society is apparently more advanced than any other in history. These things support Alarti's hypothesis that we are the most advanced creatures in the universe. "Space is really big" is not a successful refutation of his hypothesis.

[Alawen]

Originally Posted by Hasbinlulz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That a "god of the unknowns" argument Alarti, and you should feel ashamed of yourself for making it.

Do you mean god of the gaps? That doesn't apply. His wording is a little awkward in that he attempts to vaguely quantify the likelihood of our being the most intelligent beings, but the basic argument that all available evidence points to us being the most intelligent beings is both sound and valid.

Unless you've had a visit from aliens you'd like to share with us..?

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you mean god of the gaps? That doesn't apply. His wording is a little awkward in that he attempts to vaguely quantify the likelihood of our being the most intelligent beings, but the basic argument that all available evidence points to us being the most intelligent beings is both sound and valid.

Unless you've had a visit from aliens you'd like to share with us..?

Well, there's probability of life in the universe seems high, even if life requires conditions to life we already know of, but the distance to all of this life is so far and getting further with that expanding universe :P