what started as a good thing

zaldaben · #1 01-11-2021, 02:55 AM

ended with a bunch of toxic people. whether it be red, blue, or green. I use to play this game because I enjoyed it. Now if I go on a raid I have to run fraps or obs incase someone cheats or trains a raid. This easily discourages more people from playing p99 than encourages. hell maybe thats how they want it

Arvan · #2 01-11-2021, 03:03 AM

Getting along and sharing / enjoying the content at different paces for all guilds = extremely bad

Hyper competitiveness to the point of toxicity and 24/7 monitoring of other guilds behavior so you can be a tattle tale/rules lawyer = extremely good

Yes that is how the people who run these servers think and its unfortunate but that’s the way she goes

Tunabros · #3 01-11-2021, 03:08 AM

rotations solve everything

Mesocyclone · #4 01-11-2021, 04:15 AM

Green never started as anything other than toxic. It was predicted on the forum pre launch and has occurred in game every day since.

apprentice04 · #5 01-11-2021, 06:34 AM

OP sounds like a tattle tell

turbosilk · #6 01-11-2021, 08:00 AM

One question is how many green servers would to be made to satisfy blue raiders pixel lust. Blue and green are insufficient.

Power Flower · #7 01-11-2021, 10:26 AM

No issues at low levels , everquest better below 50

BlackBellamy · #8 01-11-2021, 10:27 AM

Large-scale raiding is pointless and also completely unrewarding to me. I wonder why people do it?

First off, there is absolutely zero challenge. ZERO. Zero zero zero zero. Point zero. You swarm the mob and it goes down in 7.5 seconds every time. If anything goes wrong, like some idiot trains the zone, then it's literally a 10 minute setback. The entire raid has been done 600 times before so there is no deviation. It's rote.

Second, any gear you get is useless. You are already on the raid and the boss is gonna go down in 7.5 seconds with or without your Magical Super Club. And that Magical Super Club feels worthless to you because it was handed to your for showing up. You got enough points for simply showing up, here it is. Cherish your participation trophy, don't worry no one is going to parse the logs to find out you did nothing of substance.

I keep track of people as a hobby. I fill up mule friends lists with names of known high level people in various guilds just to see where they go, what they're doing. I'll tell you what they're doing. They're quitting. They churn rate is tremendous. I have a hundred people over 55 I never see any more and I've only been doing this for two months. I see them join various guilds, then I see them in a couple of raids, then they're no longer online. The core, the leadership as it were, they stick around. And around them swirl dozens of newcomers every week, never to be seen in a months time.

I know why. Because there is no challenge. They are fed this fantasy all their leveling life that the raiding life awaits them, the can help kill the dragons and get super loot! And when they get there they realize that the only challenge is showing up on time. But they keep coming because they have been conditioned that this is the end-game and then they quit because the end-game is a chore.

It seems like the leadership runs these raids not for the loot. They run these to become better middle managers and deliver the project on time. The satisfaction they get is increasing the ROI so the Big Boss goes down in less time than projections have showed. And you are just a temp, without benefits and health insurance, working in their office building.

I had people on my lists from smaller guilds who were swallowed by the larger guilds so they could raid. Guess what? Those folks are gone, the vast majority of them. Looks like the lawn was brown on the other side of the fence too.

OuterChimp · #9 01-11-2021, 10:45 AM

I make alts and go to zones I wish I had done on my other toons....then make new Alts.

I have Alt-itis and I still enjoy EQ.

Knuckle · #10 01-11-2021, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by zaldaben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ended with a bunch of toxic people. whether it be red, blue, or green. I use to play this game because I enjoyed it. Now if I go on a raid I have to run fraps or obs incase someone cheats or trains a raid. This easily discourages more people from playing p99 than encourages. hell maybe thats how they want it

The behavior of players has not changed, the ease of recording and proving shenanigans just falls much more on the player now, since it is so much easier for players to record EQ while they raid compared to 10 or 15 years ago.