How realistic is casual raiding?

[yorumi]

I’m looking at this for green 2.0. As someone who doesn’t have time, nor do I care about the truly hardcore raiding how realistic is it to still have access to raid targets? I know some are more contested than others but I really know very little about the actual raid scene. While I’m not opposed to buying MQs and such I’d prefer to avoid it if I can. Is it realistic to do it on a more casual schedule? Does access to raids for a casual change through the eras the server will progress through? Feel free to add anything else I should know. Note I don’t really want opinions about raiding and whether you personally think it’s fun or not, I can decide for myself when or if I experience it.

[PlsNoBan]

Don't expect to get any highly desired raid targets with any kind of regularity unless you join 1 of (usually 2) of the zerg neckbeard raid guilds that control all the content 99% of the time. Be prepared to answer batphones at all hours of the day/night. Casual raiding is kind of a meme on p99. Unless ur happy with "raiding" consisting of basically HoT and trash tier targets that the top 2 guilds don't care about as much.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't expect to get any highly desired raid targets with any kind of regularity unless you join 1 of (usually 2) of the zerg neckbeard raid guilds that control all the content 99% of the time. Be prepared to answer batphones at all hours of the day/night. Casual raiding is kind of a meme on p99. Unless ur happy with "raiding" consisting of basically HoT and trash tier targets that the top 2 guilds don't care about as much.

Spoken like someone who isn't in one of those top guilds.

You can absolutely be in a top guild and still be "casual", at least in the "not answering every batphone" sense. Will you make it to every big boss raid? No, probably not.

But you can still make it to whatever raids happen when you are online, and over time you'll accrue DKP. Eventually, someday, you'll get lucky, and the guild will be doing the raid boss that drops the item you want ... while you're online to fight it. Then you'll get to spend those DKP and get the phat lewtz you desire.

The only issue is that some guilds might have a minimum participation requirement, either during the application process or permanently. But unless you are super casual it should still be possible to hit that requirement. I think in Kingdom (we're recruiting!) it's like 10%, but only if you want to be in the highest "class" of raiding (ie. be able to spend the max DKP for those big items); you can be in the guild without any raid participation, and just only be able to bid on 90% of the (not-biggest-ticket) items.

Oh, also top end raid guilds might want you to have certain raiding gear, so to join them you may need to spend some time in the EC tunnel.

And even if you are super casual and can't make that requirement ... there are still tons of guilds other than the top ones, which raid most of the targets on the server, and don't have any minimum participation or gear requirements. You won't get Vulak, but you can still do a ton of raiding and get lots of great items.

[yorumi]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But you can still make it to whatever raids happen when you are online, and over time you'll accrue DKP. Eventually, someday, you'll get lucky, and the guild will be doing the raid boss that drops the item you want ... while you're online to fight it. Then you'll get to spend those DKP and get the phat lewtz you desire.

The only issue is that some guilds might have a minimum participation requirement, either during the application process or permanently. But unless you are super casual it should still be possible to hit that requirement. I think in Kingdom (we're recruiting!) it's like 10%, but only if you want to be in the highest "class" of raiding (ie. be able to spend the max DKP for those big items); you can be in the guild without any raid participation, and just only be able to bid on 90% of the (not-biggest-ticket) items.

That actually sounds like exactly what I was hoping it would be like. I know casual has a pretty broad definition but for me it’s mostly that I can’t dedicate my life to raiding but I can certainly do a few hours multiple nights a week. I just want to experience a part of eq I haven’t done before and actually gear a character through it. I know I might not be able to get every last BiS item and I’m fine with that.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by yorumi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That actually sounds like exactly what I was hoping it would be like. I know casual has a pretty broad definition but for me it’s mostly that I can’t dedicate my life to raiding but I can certainly do a few hours multiple nights a week. I just want to experience a part of eq I haven’t done before and actually gear a character through it. I know I might not be able to get every last BiS item and I’m fine with that.

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] You should definitely join a raid guild.

Kingdom is recruiting if you want to be able to kill the biggest baddies on the server, but if you want a guild that tackles smaller foes to "get your feet wet" https://wiki.project1999.com/Green_Guilds has lots of other options.

(NOTE: I say this as a Kingdom member ... but also as someone who got started raiding with a smaller guild, Anonymous. Both have pros/cons.)

[yorumi]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] You should definitely join a raid guild.

Kingdom is recruiting if you want to be able to kill the biggest baddies on the server, but if you want a guild that tackles smaller foes to "get your feet wet" https://wiki.project1999.com/Green_Guilds has lots of other options.

(NOTE: I say this as a Kingdom member ... but also as someone who got started raiding with a smaller guild, Anonymous. Both have pros/cons.)

Yeah I'm planning to pick one out later. Main reason I don't now is because my highest character on green right now is 7 and I'm mostly planning to just try some combos out that I haven't done before to see what I like. I've played a good bit on blue several years ago but I always kind of played the same things and I'm in the mood for something different.

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So there's two types of raids:

shortened...

Thanks that did help a lot. Sounds like I'll actually be able to do a good bit of it over a long enough period of time.

Originally Posted by Scalem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Should know that no one knows if green is going to end or when it will. You could be waiting years before a green 2.0 if we even get one.

I have confidence it won't been an extreme period of time. As mentioned I don't have characters ready to go yet. If it ends up going long enough that I get a character at raid levels and there's no end in sight then I'd just join a guild and start going but for not it's not an urgent issue.

[tadkins]

From my experience, it's not very realistic. You're either in one of the big time guilds like Seal Team, Kingdom or Force of Will, or you're in one of the smaller guilds getting rolled over by the aforementioned big ones. This server is just oppressive and hyper-competitive, and that's apparently how the folks here want it. Prepare for drama if you aspire to do anything more than a derv camp.

If you really want to see some raiding without being trolled, griefed or trained, the newest TLP servers on Live are going to be opening up in a couple days. It's not perfect, but dealing with a weirder looking Freeport is a fair tradeoff in exchange for being able to count on raiding and earning loot without hassle.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only issue is that some guilds might have a minimum participation requirement, either during the application process or permanently. But unless you are super casual it should still be possible to hit that requirement. I think in Kingdom (we're recruiting!) it's like 10%, but only if you want to be in the highest "class" of raiding (ie. be able to spend the max DKP for those big items); you can be in the guild without any raid participation, and just only be able to bid on 90% of the (not-biggest-ticket) items.

Your guild accused me of being a spy for another guild when I tried to join you guys, when all I was looking to do was make some friends and eventually see some raiding.

Seriously, when folks on this server are *that* paranoid where it is a "meta" to try and sneak spies into rival guilds, what chance does the average person really have on this server?

[Scalem]

Originally Posted by tadkins [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From my experience, it's not very realistic. You're either in one of the big time guilds like Seal Team, Kingdom or Force of Will, or you're in one of the smaller guilds getting rolled over by the aforementioned big ones. This server is just oppressive and hyper-competitive, and that's apparently how the folks here want it. Prepare for drama if you aspire to do anything more than a derv camp.

If you really want to see some raiding without being trolled, griefed or trained, the newest TLP servers on Live are going to be opening up in a couple days. It's not perfect, but dealing with a weirder looking Freeport is a fair tradeoff in exchange for being able to count on raiding and earning loot without hassle.



Your guild accused me of being a spy for another guild when I tried to join you guys, when all I was looking to do was make some friends and eventually see some raiding.

Seriously, when folks on this server are *that* paranoid where it is a "meta" to try and sneak spies into rival guilds, what chance does the average person really have on this server?

It's hilarious how paranoid Kingdom is about spies when there is literally nothing worth spying on any guild for. Not going to gain any crazy state secrets or undiscovered strategies. Chances are you have friends in any of the competitive guilds who probably share more then any "spy" would ever figure out on their own.

[greenspectre]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spoken like someone who isn't in one of those top guilds.

You can absolutely be in a top guild and still be "casual", at least in the "not answering every batphone" sense. Will you make it to every big boss raid? No, probably not.

But you can still make it to whatever raids happen when you are online, and over time you'll accrue DKP. Eventually, someday, you'll get lucky, and the guild will be doing the raid boss that drops the item you want ... while you're online to fight it. Then you'll get to spend those DKP and get the phat lewtz you desire.

The only issue is that some guilds might have a minimum participation requirement, either during the application process or permanently. But unless you are super casual it should still be possible to hit that requirement. I think in Kingdom (we're recruiting!) it's like 10%, but only if you want to be in the highest "class" of raiding (ie. be able to spend the max DKP for those big items); you can be in the guild without any raid participation, and just only be able to bid on 90% of the (not-biggest-ticket) items.

Loramin's got it on-point here. This is what I do. I went hard enough to hit the 10% requirement (in one month, by the way, not overall- that's easier to do than you think, especially with scheduled events like Sky). Now I can casually raid whenever it's convenient, which is a huge since I have sole care of my 5-year-old so I can't always go hard like that. Sure, I don't earn 1,000 DKP a week or anything, but that hasn't stopped me from going HoT/Vindi armor to NToV pieces.

I'd recommend Kingdom for sure, super helpful team that will teach you everything you need to know. Side note, I didn't know we were guildies, Loramin! PM me your toon name!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Not sure how the guilds work on Green, but casual raiding is very much a thing on Blue. The top guilds no longer require raid attendance minimums, so you can attend whichever raids you want, whenever you want. You probably won't be able to get the highest tier loot due to it taking a long time to acquire that much DKP as a casual, but you could get low to mid tier raid loot just fine.