Kyle Rittenhouse = Based God

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by reznor_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It'll be cool when Rittenhouse goes to jail for murder.

He is: a pasty, wannabe weekend warrior tryhard white boy. Fat fuck who thinks he's good with a gun.

I disagree, he clearly demonstrated ample training with a rifle for a 17 year old. His intention was to quell rioting, not inflame it, and he was clearly willing to help people he may have disagreed with politically. He shot people who were trying to kill and\or beat him, which is like the literal definition of self defense and has about 150 years of case law to back it up. Those people made the decision to try to kill and\or beat him. "wannabe weekend warrior tryhard white boy fat fuck" doesn't exactly constitute an argument, but I can see you're quite deranged and angry about somebody you don't know and have never met and that's gotta suck.

He didn't commit anything close to murder, why would he go to jail for murder? Why would you wish for that? That's insane.

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by Woke Locc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree but I don't think either of us is equipped to know.

Mario is right that the cops will walk, not sure on Kyle.

A coroner ruled it was a lethal amount. I mean, was he\she lying? You can deduce things about a death involving a large amount of a widely known and publicized lethal opioid narcotic without having to be an actual coroner.

[reznor_]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree, he clearly demonstrated ample training with a rifle for a 17 year old. His intention was to quell rioting, not inflame it, and he was clearly willing to help people he may have disagreed with politically. He shot people who were trying to kill and\or beat him, which is like the literal definition of self defense and has about 150 years of case law to back it up. Those people made the decision to try to kill and\or beat him. "wannabe weekend warrior tryhard white boy fat fuck" doesn't exactly constitute an argument, but I can see you're quite deranged and angry about somebody you don't know and have never met and that's gotta suck.

He didn't commit anything close to murder, why would he go to jail for murder? Why would you wish for that? That's insane.

You took my bait. So, here's my issue with Kyle:

Literally went to a riot zone, armed, to "quell rioting" as you put it. That's not his job. Not even remotely close. Some dude with a misguided view of patriotism. No one knows, he some dude and then "self-defense" kicked in when he shot the second two (the video that's been widely shared and we've all seen). Hopefully the jury does the right thing and convicts him as he should rightly be.

I fucking love guns. I own several. I believe firmly in the second amendment. I also happen to be a democrat and believe that people shouldn't be murdered in their apartments while they sleep, and believe that everyone should have access to healthcare and basic necessities (Note: some of you will call me a socialist for this -- I believe in capitalism, but I believe we should pay a bit more to take care of people who can't afford it, so go fuck yourself). However, I'm not willing to kill republicans or people I disagree with politically -- something the right can't really make a claim to.

Showing up in a city that you're driven to *by your mother* to "quell rioting", are you fucking kidding me? That's the defense? And that he's a patriotic American doing his job? Hopefully he gets skewered for this.

[Woke Locc]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A coroner ruled it was a lethal amount. I mean, was he\she lying? You can deduce things about a death involving a large amount of a widely known and publicized lethal opioid narcotic without having to be an actual coroner.

I'm saying I think they have to use the official ldl for legal reasons. As Florida has taught us, humans are remarkable creatures when it comes to drug use.

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by reznor_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You took my bait. So, here's my issue with Kyle:

Literally went to a riot zone, armed, to "quell rioting" as you put it. That's not his job. Not even remotely close. Some dude with a misguided view of patriotism. No one knows, he some dude and then "self-defense" kicked in when he shot the second two (the video that's been widely shared and we've all seen). Hopefully the jury does the right thing and convicts him as he should rightly be.

I fucking love guns. I own several. I believe firmly in the second amendment. I also happen to be a democrat and believe that people shouldn't be murdered in their apartments while they sleep, and believe that everyone should have access to healthcare and basic necessities (Note: some of you will call me a socialist for this -- I believe in capitalism, but I believe we should pay a bit more to take care of people who can't afford it, so go fuck yourself). However, I'm not willing to kill republicans or people I disagree with politically -- something the right can't really make a claim to.

Showing up in a city that you're driven to *by your mother* to "quell rioting", are you fucking kidding me? That's the defense? And that he's a patriotic American doing his job? Hopefully he gets skewered for this.

No, that's not the defense. The defense is that he wasn't doing anything illegal, and people were trying to attack him, unprovoked. If somebody even just punches you hard in the jaw and you go down on pavement, you can very easily die, let alone with a skateboard. Those people, who made those choices, would still be alive whether Kyle was there that night or not had they simply not made those choices. It's clear self defense by like every reasonable interpretation of the laws of our country, unless contrary evidence comes out which it hasn't. He's just getting dogpiled because people saw a 10 second clip on facebook or some dumb shit and took *that* bait. He didn't break any laws nor entice anyone to attack him, they made conscious choices as moral actors to attack him first. This is the entire point of the 2nd amendment. It sucks they died, and it sucks police weren't able to do their jobs such that a kid felt compelled to do this in the first place. I don't like seeing any person get killed or injured, but it is fundamentally unjust to convict this kid of murder. It was not even remotely close to satisfying the legal preconditions for a murder charge.

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by Woke Locc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm saying I think they have to use the official ldl for legal reasons. As Florida has taught us, humans are remarkable creatures when it comes to drug use.

No doubt but... it was well above the ldl. Like, way way above it, so I'm confused. Granted, a guy his size and weight could likely tolerate more of any substance, but not four fold.

We can mince words about it, but people think the cop like choked him to death with his knee because he was a racist, which there is essentially no evidence to support. Yet, people have been rioting and looting and beating and killing for like five months now based purely on that assumption. That's the point.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All opioids and opiates are respiratory depressants. So is alcohol btw. Fentanyl is an extremely powerful and efficient synthetic opioid however. It is also extremely habit forming like all opioids and opiates, meaning it will make users take increasingly dangerous risks to obtain it and continue using it. If the medical examiner reports *lethal levels* of such a compound, how do you arrive at the conclusion that the cause of his death was probably the kneeling? When somebody is genuinely choking, they can't speak. He did not actually die in the video, he simply went unconscious. He died later at the hospital. All of this is completely, entirely consistent with a fentanyl overdose brought on by a panicked bad decision.

And yes, this is essentially exactly how juice wrld died. Eating drugs so they won't be found.

There’s really no way to know, but I’m guessing 9 minutes of a knee on your back and a medical examiner saying asphyxiation, not overdose, is the cause of death could possibly lead one to conclude that the knee killed him. Also, he was standing and seemed fine prior to the knee. As you said, you rapidly build tolerance to fentanyl, maybe that lethal level wasn’t lethal to Floyd since he was a habitual user

This is all conjecture, what we know is he died in police custody with a knee on his back. Would you wish that upon your son? Your brother? Your friend? For better or worse, I understand that being a cop in this country is a shitty job, and Floyd was a dog shit human who did not positively contribute to his society, even up until his death, but when you’re in police custody they have a responsibility to not have you die. As far as him talking and that meaning he was still breathing, in the very technical sense, yes, but that doesn’t mean he was getting a full breath each time he inhaled for 9 minutes. The cop is culpable in his death.

But I believe in Kant’s categorical imperative, and I think we shouldn’t celebrate death, lest we wake up one day and be the dog shit Chinese subhuman trash who operate 380 internment / death camps in Xinjiang. We should oppose death, even among the worst of us like George Floyd, who I do firmly believe is in hell right now. That judgment is God’s job, not mine or Officer Chauvin’s

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by reznor_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You took my bait. So, here's my issue with Kyle:

Literally went to a riot zone, armed, to "quell rioting" as you put it. That's not his job. Not even remotely close. Some dude with a misguided view of patriotism. No one knows, he some dude and then "self-defense" kicked in when he shot the second two (the video that's been widely shared and we've all seen). Hopefully the jury does the right thing and convicts him as he should rightly be.

I fucking love guns. I own several. I believe firmly in the second amendment. I also happen to be a democrat and believe that people shouldn't be murdered in their apartments while they sleep, and believe that everyone should have access to healthcare and basic necessities (Note: some of you will call me a socialist for this -- I believe in capitalism, but I believe we should pay a bit more to take care of people who can't afford it, so go fuck yourself). However, I'm not willing to kill republicans or people I disagree with politically -- something the right can't really make a claim to.

Showing up in a city that you're driven to *by your mother* to "quell rioting", are you fucking kidding me? That's the defense? And that he's a patriotic American doing his job? Hopefully he gets skewered for this.

Most republicans and democrats don’t kill their political opponents, claiming democrats have the moral high ground is bull shit, our two parties are as dirty and as fucked up as they’ve ever been. The governor of Wisconsin, right after Blake’s death, tweeted some incendiary bull shit that might’ve made the protests and looting worse

It’s very hard to assign blame, we have a nation on edge right now and low IQ people who don’t value democracy, on both sides, making life harder for everyone

[Topgunben]

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[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No doubt but... it was well above the ldl. Like, way way above it, so I'm confused. Granted, a guy his size and weight could likely tolerate more of any substance, but not four fold.

We can mince words about it, but people think the cop like choked him to death with his knee because he was a racist, which there is essentially no evidence to support. Yet, people have been rioting and looting and beating and killing for like five months now based purely on that assumption. That's the point.

Two wrongs don’t make a right, this isn’t a team sport. Both sides suck and need to get jobs, pay taxes, and not take their opinions to be more important than their vote. Protesting is toddler like behavior to begin with, it’s saying “if you don’t listen to me I get to make your life worse.” It is, however, guaranteed by the first amendment. Our founding fathers were smarter than we are, so we must live with the peaceful protests and vote out the political leaders who do not deal with the violent variety