Warrior dex fun build

[hagglebaby]

Wanted to do a fun build on a warrior dual wielding at lvl 13. I have a wavecrasher, venomous axe of the velium brood and a bunch of cheaper dex gear.

Which wep has the better dps before lvl 13?

What level will I need to switch to ratio weapons and take off the dex gear?

[Jimjam]

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I only got my dex guy to 52 tho. He has a frostbringer and skean atm. That was before the 2h boost. Maybe lord bob axe is the way to got 30+ now?

[PatChapp]

Before lvl 13 it just doesn't matter
Assuming you have a fungi,seahorse belt and any weapon around 1:2 ratio you don't ever need to stop killing.

[PatChapp]

Also go gnome for the ridiculous clickies for a fun toon
Clicky haste,dex,str is crazy fun for leveling.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by hagglebaby [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wanted to do a fun build on a warrior dual wielding at lvl 13. I have a wavecrasher, venomous axe of the velium brood and a bunch of cheaper dex gear.

Which wep has the better dps before lvl 13?

What level will I need to switch to ratio weapons and take off the dex gear?

Wavecrasher to 10. Maybe axe to 13 just for seeing those big dd procs.

Once you get dual wield remember most times the secondary delay elapses you won’t swing, but you still have a chance to proc. Early on you may see more procs than swings!

Rather than switching to ratio weapons you may find it better to switch to 2handers around 28-30.

[Snaggles]

You could parse and run averages to determine when a ven axe will lose steam over a ratio weapon like a seb dirk. Like Pat said though, it doesn’t matter with a fungi since it will fly you to 30 when a Reaver is your best friend.

There is no price low enough to tempt me to buy a Dojo axe. It has a 10% worse ratio than a Staff of Battle…

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could parse and run averages to determine when a ven axe will lose steam over a ratio weapon like a seb dirk. Like Pat said though, it doesnÂ’t matter with a fungi since it will fly you to 30 when a Reaver is your best friend.

There is no price low enough to tempt me to buy a Dojo axe. It has a 10% worse ratio than a Staff of BattleÂ…

Okay, I felt like doing some dirty simple maths (i.e. way oversimplified to be realistic or applicable) to see when bob axe is better than SoB.

I'm going to assume the damage bonus tables according to Lucy are correct, since this is really just an academic exercise and I don't care if the answer is wrong or useless.

Below level 30 the dmg cap is 30, so the question is at what value of n does the following statement become true (30n+4)/44>(30n+1)/37.

Lets multiply both sides by the denominators (37 and 44)

(30n+4)*37 > (30n+1)*44

expands to

30n*37 + 4*37 > 30n*44 + 44
1110n + 148 > 1320n + 44

isolate n

148-44 > 1320n-1110n
104 > 210n

n< 104/210 ~~ 0.5

ergo below level 30, the multiplier to dmg must be about 0.5 or less for bob to out white damage SoB - if we assume multiplier can be from 0.1 to 2 x dmg (which holds true for str+offence < 201) this means your average hits would need to be very low (high AC / level targets?) for this situation to precipitate.

Level 30+ the statement becomes (33n+4)/44 > (31n+1)/37 as dmg for these weapons becomes uncapped. In this situation the modifier to dmg must be n<0.7 for bob to produce better white damage than sob.

Following throuhg to 60, where the damage bonus becomes +37 and +31 instead of +4 and +1 (again according to Lucy), bob would only outwhitedamage sob when n<0.03 (a situation which can't occur as the lowest possible dmg multiplier is 0.1, one tenth of dmg).

So yeah, my DSM confirms that at lower levels, especially at 30 BoB has better white damage than SoB against targets with strong mitigation, even before considering the extra 3 or 4 dps granted by it's proc.


I have no idea why I did this. Completely pointless.

[hagglebaby]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay, I felt like doing some dirty simple maths (i.e. way oversimplified to be realistic or applicable) to see when bob axe is better than SoB.

I'm going to assume the damage bonus tables according to Lucy are correct, since this is really just an academic exercise and I don't care if the answer is wrong or useless.

Below level 30 the dmg cap is 30, so the question is at what value of n does the following statement become true (30n+4)/44>(30n+1)/37.

Lets multiply both sides by the denominators (37 and 44)

(30n+4)*37 > (30n+1)*44

expands to

30n*37 + 4*37 > 30n*44 + 44
1110n + 148 > 1320n + 44

isolate n

148-44 > 1320n-1110n
104 > 210n

n< 104/210 ~~ 0.5

ergo below level 30, the multiplier to dmg must be about 0.5 or less for bob to out white damage SoB - if we assume multiplier can be from 0.1 to 2 x dmg (which holds true for str+offence < 201) this means your average hits would need to be very low (high AC / level targets?) for this situation to precipitate.

Level 30+ the statement becomes (33n+4)/44 > (31n+1)/37 as dmg for these weapons becomes uncapped. In this situation the modifier to dmg must be n<0.7 for bob to produce better white damage than sob.

Following throuhg to 60, where the damage bonus becomes +37 and +31 instead of +4 and +1 (again according to Lucy), bob would only outwhitedamage sob when n<0.03 (a situation which can't occur as the lowest possible dmg multiplier is 0.1, one tenth of dmg).

So yeah, my DSM confirms that at lower levels, especially at 30 BoB has better white damage than SoB against targets with strong mitigation, even before considering the extra 3 or 4 dps granted by it's proc.


I have no idea why I did this. Completely pointless.

I found it useful.

Would this math more or less hold true for a winters fury and scimitar of the emerald dawn (two 1 handers I already own) vs wavecrasher + venomous axe of the velium brood?

[hagglebaby]

Just a little trip report:

Was duoing with a cleric pre lvl 13 and I used the wavecrasher early on in a fight against red and yellow cons to get an early slow and dot off. Once I got the wavecrasher proc off or the fight progressed to a certain point where it wasn’t as worth it anymore, I switched to venomous axe hoping to get an 85dmg proc off to end the fight.

If I’m fighting against blues or clearing greens and the chance of death or needing heals is very low, then max dps wep is best.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay, I felt like doing some dirty simple maths (i.e. way oversimplified to be realistic or applicable) to see when bob axe is better than SoB.

I'm going to assume the damage bonus tables according to Lucy are correct, since this is really just an academic exercise and I don't care if the answer is wrong or useless.

Below level 30 the dmg cap is 30, so the question is at what value of n does the following statement become true (30n+4)/44>(30n+1)/37.

Lets multiply both sides by the denominators (37 and 44)

(30n+4)*37 > (30n+1)*44

expands to

30n*37 + 4*37 > 30n*44 + 44
1110n + 148 > 1320n + 44

isolate n

148-44 > 1320n-1110n
104 > 210n

n< 104/210 ~~ 0.5

ergo below level 30, the multiplier to dmg must be about 0.5 or less for bob to out white damage SoB - if we assume multiplier can be from 0.1 to 2 x dmg (which holds true for str+offence < 201) this means your average hits would need to be very low (high AC / level targets?) for this situation to precipitate.

Level 30+ the statement becomes (33n+4)/44 > (31n+1)/37 as dmg for these weapons becomes uncapped. In this situation the modifier to dmg must be n<0.7 for bob to produce better white damage than sob.

Following throuhg to 60, where the damage bonus becomes +37 and +31 instead of +4 and +1 (again according to Lucy), bob would only outwhitedamage sob when n<0.03 (a situation which can't occur as the lowest possible dmg multiplier is 0.1, one tenth of dmg).

So yeah, my DSM confirms that at lower levels, especially at 30 BoB has better white damage than SoB against targets with strong mitigation, even before considering the extra 3 or 4 dps granted by it's proc.


I have no idea why I did this. Completely pointless.

I used a Staff of Battle as an example because it’s 500p where the Dojo is like 10k on blue. A Reaver is 6k.

If I had a Dojo and couldn’t sell it, id put it on an EC mule. BiS for that [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]