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Old 08-05-2020, 07:17 AM
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Someone should make an awesome list on the wiki
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There would need to be a little bit of testing done on how DoT procs effect hate generated, and on some other different procs, but that would be awesome to get onto the wiki if those knowledge gaps can be filled in.
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Old 08-05-2020, 10:51 AM
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What makes you say that the Nev horn proc not having a negative AC component makes the proc less than 400 hate?
Take a look at https://wiki.project1999.com/Cracked_Claw_of_Zlandicar which has the proc https://wiki.project1999.com/Incapacitate . This is a very high aggro proc (equal to slow), because it has a -AC component.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Nevederia%27s_Horn has https://wiki.project1999.com/Suffocate which is a very low aggro proc, becuase it doesn't have the -AC component. While the ratio is good and high aggro, you are not going to be turning mobs with a proc that isn't slow, poison counters, or -AC.
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Old 08-05-2020, 11:28 AM
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Well sod might be broke but I know I loved it when I got to borrow one, never had agro issues and was most fun wep ever [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-05-2020, 06:24 PM
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Such good aggro weapons in DN and all relatively easy to obtain
https://wiki.project1999.com/Willsapper
https://wiki.project1999.com/Infestation
https://wiki.project1999.com/Chelaki_Tail
https://wiki.project1999.com/Wrapped..._Serpent_Spine
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Old 08-06-2020, 12:20 AM
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Primary
1. Feverblade (procs ALOT 400 hate proc + 110 dd)
2. Red epic its 500 hate proc + 100 hp dd ( gets resist all the time so mostly just 500 hate)
3. Willsapper 13/20 with a slow proc thats around low 300's hate (tested it)
4. Trident deep sea (slow proc with a dot) around low 300's hate also (still working on this one)
5. Sword of the Shissar (400 hate proc)

Secondary
1. Red epic
2. Trident deep sea [Nev horn ( no just NO) this is white dmg only and dumb]
3. Feverblade (see above)
4. Infestation (400 hate + a dot)
5. Frostbringer (400 hate nothing else)
A warriors white dmg helps a little but its all about the procs now that you cant clicky your way to hate.
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Old 08-06-2020, 12:24 AM
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Well sod might be broke but I know I loved it when I got to borrow one, never had agro issues and was most fun wep ever [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
you also got a golden scepter to run around with...
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Old 08-06-2020, 12:38 AM
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https://wiki.project1999.com/Tserrina%27s_Whip

is a great weapon that is relatively unknown, snares mr immune mobs. probably the "lowest level" weapon i carry.
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Old 08-06-2020, 10:01 AM
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https://wiki.project1999.com/Tserrina%27s_Whip

is a great weapon that is relatively unknown, snares mr immune mobs. probably the "lowest level" weapon i carry.
Tserrina is a rude girl in TOFS. Probably why. SHe has some cool stuff though.
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Old 08-06-2020, 02:22 PM
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https://wiki.project1999.com/Tserrina%27s_Whip

is a great weapon that is relatively unknown, snares mr immune mobs. probably the "lowest level" weapon i carry.
Too bad that .3 ratio means you won’t be able to keep up with white aggro without a lot of procs. The proc is useful, but this is the type of weapon you’ll need to switch out after it lands.
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Old 08-06-2020, 05:58 PM
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I am fairly sure that guide is using the Monk rates of DA/DW rather than the warrior ones, which are 0.52 and 0.6 respectively. Also all of the misspelled item names trigger my OCD.

To answer your original question: for literally a decade threat generation simply didn't matter here due to massive clicky use, so everyone wanted a Vulak katana and a Blade of Carnage for +200 HP and huge +STA. I guess that habits are hard to break!

I don't understand why any raiding warrior would not use the Jagged Blade of War and bag the Willsapper and Trident unless you want the slow procs. It's more damage, more threat, roughly the same stats as the 1H combos, and as a bonus eats fewer ripostes. I guess the swirling blue/red color is a matter of taste; I don't really love it but it's not enough to make me use something else. By the way Baler, Sakuragi's Warrior Guide does include some hate calculations that are basically correct. But really there should be four lists, for Classic, Kunark, Velious, and Velious after the 2H adjustment.

By the way, the scabbard is the difficult part of the warrior epic. I simply did the blade/hilt quests twice so I could have both the 1H and 2H versions available without wasting a bag slot. I think at some point you are supposed to be able to do the combine with a Sword of Runes as well.
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