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View Poll Results: Will you take the coronavirus vaccine?
Yes, Absolutely. I cannot wait for it. 24 43.64%
Maybe, I am reluctant but scared of covid 10 18.18%
Not likely, I dont think i need it 10 18.18%
Never, I dont take vaccines. 7 12.73%
I cant it reacts with my hormone pills 4 7.27%
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Old 11-23-2020, 04:08 AM
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Getting it ASAP. FIL is high up in vaccine development, works with Fauci and has consulted on all the major vaccines, and he keeps me apprised. When these vaccines are available they will have passed phase III trials and will therefore be backed by the same scientific rigor that makes everything else, that every fucking dope in the Western World takes for granted, run. Trials have been very successful with minimal adverse events and high rates of protection.

The internet as it currently exists is the great disaster of our time; not an economic disaster, or a natural one, but an intellectual disaster. Hundreds of millions of people were given a voice along with access to the sum of human knowledge, without the cognitive skills or social structure to navigate it successfully. The result has been radicalization and thought cults, and the viral spread of misinformation, lies, propaganda, and just plain stupid opinions. The voice of experts who have actual knowledge on issues, based on factual evidence, and the surrogates who can recognize that and amplify their signal, is drowned out by millions of idiots on Facebook who think they are qualified to spread their take to anyone who will listen.

It's literally the intellectual death of a generation by memes and it's far scarier than Trump, coronavirus, 9/11, or anything else I've seen in my life. We used to have professionals who would filter fact from fiction, experts from village idiots, making sure the things we heard on a day to day basis were well curated. It wasn't perfect. There were a lot of things we didn't learn about it, and it was vulnerable to manipulation by the people who hold society's reins, but that imperfection was nothing compared to this. It's done to boomers exactly what they told us video games would do when we were kids-- rotted their fucking brains out.

It all looks pretty grim. I think the only solution is to somehow remove anonymity from the internet, tie every bit of your presence to your real life persona and credentials, and then adjust all the various levers and algorithms such that your ability to reach people with posts about topics that you really know nothing about is severely limited. That and teach children intensively how to spot misinformation. I thought it was intuitive but apparently it's not. The sad thing is I doubt any of that shit would work. I think we're just fucked and I'm just doomed to spend the rest of my life constantly running into people who tell me some of the most stupid shit I've ever heard, hot off the presses from instagram.

You can literally notice a difference over the last 10 years right here on this very board. Lots of people with lots of stupid opinions 2011-2013, but most of it was home grown and was based on actual real matters of personal philosophy, like the merits of fiscal conservatism vs. socialism, not the outright lies and conspiracy theories that dominate this board now.
I think it will make me sterile, like in the Sliders episode.
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Old 11-23-2020, 04:47 AM
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will take pretty immediately unless there's indication of ppl developing full infections (aka virus not attenuated enough). Unfortunately there's no microchipping possibility yet, or else world would be awesomer.
I just learned it's a mRNA vaccine, which means there's no attenuated virus involved. I will def take.
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Old 11-23-2020, 05:36 AM
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Teenager arrested in Wisconsin mall shooting that injured eight - Weber did not identify the teen or say what charges he may face. Well then he's not white, or the headline would have been 'White right-wing extremist arrested in Wisconsin mall shooting'
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Teenager arrested in Wisconsin mall shooting that injured eight - Weber did not identify the teen or say what charges he may face. Well then he's not white, or the headline would have been 'White right-wing extremist arrested in Wisconsin mall shooting'
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Old 11-23-2020, 10:30 AM
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IQ rises steadily across time, people are most definitely not getting dumber. Dumb people can't snag mates as well as smarties.

Dumb people of old are now slightly smarter, plus they have access to many tools to polish the turds they sell.

The internet is in the top 5 of most influential inventions/discoveries in human history.
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Old 11-23-2020, 10:34 AM
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So you're all on board? My train to utopia?
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Old 11-23-2020, 11:13 AM
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I don’t think I’ll be taking it, at least not the first vaccine released. . At 34 years old I am pretty safe I think. But my dad who is 74 probably should.

If the government tries to make the vaccine mandatory, that is going to be a problem.
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Old 11-23-2020, 11:35 AM
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74 would be even the more reason not to trust an undocumented vaccine bro.

They were alive, and died. And look now; They are alive forevermore.

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Old 11-23-2020, 12:06 PM
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I think if you want to kill people a vaccine program is not a cost efficient way to terminate lives. Based on that alone, I doubt there is 'maleficence' behind any such vaccine, except that it may be mostly saline with a lil bit of something that we pay for, so snake oil maybe. Or some kind of training to get us more obedient to free injections of goodies.

I feel like snake oil is the preview of medicines 'sin', but if people I trust say it's trustworthy, I wouldn't argue to hard against it or be very afraid.

But there is also good in medicine and not all parties are evil. Nor even those that are cutthroat in their pricing or cost. Entirely evil. It's not so black and white. The vaccine could be a lot more expensive than it needs to be, yet still work. And the people in the backroom twisting proteins in a microscope may genuinely be pouring their good will into their work.
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