Current Raid Proposals by AG, Riot, and Freedom

[Akg49]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just PM the GMs, message them on the forums or put a forum petition in. There are several avenues.

Nah its more fun watching you make a fool of yourself on there [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Clazxiss]

Just implement instancing already and be done with this. Each guild with have their own raid zone. What's hard to understand? This is the beta server where non classic items have been implemented, it's fine.

[beversami]

Originally Posted by druidbob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Worth mentioning that the non-suspended guilds were able to create an agreement that was a mix of draft-pick rotation and ffa mobs that everyone was happy with in one afternoon.

[Magerin]

Lets set up a weekly draft process.
5 Rounds, every guild gets one pick each round.
Trades for picks is NOT allowed.
Each guild picks their 5 targets for each round (a total of 5 mobs each week).
Non-picked mobs are FFA, open for any guild at any time.
There will be a 48 hour lock on each mob unless your mob is a linked mob (vulak), in this case, that 48 hour is paused and won't start until after all linked mobs are out of the way for a clear shot.
Normal FTE rules apply as always.
Currently in the rotation: Riot, Freedom, AG, Kittens, TSS and aegis making up a total of six guilds with a total of 30 picks over all.

This should solve a lot of problems and force guilds to focus on what their guild is able of doing and not spreading their forces too thin. Drafting orders will also rotate week to week. If you are first pick of each round on one week, you will be last pick of each round the following week. Pick your targets wisely! What mob(s) you pick(s) could also have tied mobs to them, like Jorl and Lady N, and Triplets could be considered one total pick to clear up any confusion. At the completion of each cycle, each guild will meet up to make their draft picks within 24 hours. The most recent draft will also apply if an earthquakes happen.

Everyone wins.

[N0tClassic]

Originally Posted by Magerin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lets set up a weekly draft process.
5 Rounds, every guild gets one pick each round.
Trades for picks is NOT allowed.
Each guild picks their 5 targets for each round (a total of 5 mobs each week).
Non-picked mobs are FFA, open for any guild at any time.
There will be a 48 hour lock on each mob unless your mob is a linked mob (vulak), in this case, that 48 hour is paused and won't start until after all linked mobs are out of the way for a clear shot.
Normal FTE rules apply as always.
Currently in the rotation: Riot, Freedom, AG, Kittens, TSS and aegis making up a total of six guilds with a total of 30 picks over all.

This should solve a lot of problems and force guilds to focus on what their guild is able of doing and not spreading their forces too thin. Drafting orders will also rotate week to week. If you are first pick of each round on one week, you will be last pick of each round the following week. Pick your targets wisely! What mob(s) you pick(s) could also have tied mobs to them, like Jorl and Lady N, and Triplets could be considered one total pick to clear up any confusion. At the completion of each cycle, each guild will meet up to make their draft picks within 24 hours. The most recent draft will also apply if an earthquakes happen.

Everyone wins.

It's a mistake to even have these proposals. It's a total waste of time. No point in catering to people with all of the rube goldberg raiding schemes

Ban them all from ever raiding again. Just ban their accounts period. Block their IPs from connecting to the box

Break the cycle

Usher in a new golden age upon the server

[ScottBerta]

You think banning those guys would change anything? All that would happen is guilds would join together and we would have 2 or 3 elite guilds again fighting for the best pixels. This has always been the story of p99 blue. Take the top guilds out, new ones will merge and fill the void.

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by N0tClassic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a mistake to even have these proposals. It's a total waste of time. No point in catering to people with all of the rube goldberg raiding schemes

Ban them all from ever raiding again. Just ban their accounts period. Block their IPs from connecting to the box

Break the cycle

Usher in a new golden age upon the server

This may be the most selfish post during this whole ordeal.
There are many good people in all 3 guilds that don't deserve to be banned.

And like the post right under you, that wouldn't solve anything but create new animosity at the top.

You sir, sound like an asshole.

[cobhc3]

Originally Posted by Molitoth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This may be the most selfish post during this whole ordeal.
There are many good people in all 3 guilds that don't deserve to be banned.

And like the post right under you, that wouldn't solve anything but create new animosity at the top.

You sir, sound like an asshole.

Looks like he trolled you good. New account, 12 posts, you took the bait hard and fast. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[N0tClassic]

Originally Posted by Molitoth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This may be the most selfish post during this whole ordeal.
There are many good people in all 3 guilds that don't deserve to be banned.

And like the post right under you, that wouldn't solve anything but create new animosity at the top.

You sir, sound like an asshole.

You're both wrong

This is best moment the beta server has had in a long time to break the cycle, purge the filth and usher in a new golden age of beta servering

Once these people are kicked off the box you then implement new raid rules that are very simple

If you're guild is raid suspended 3 times you are immediately transferred to Red permanently. Do not pass go. Bye. Have fun. This hammer is coldly mediated. No petitions. No second chances. Exile.

Think of it as an instanced server for the trash to go wallow in. Their own personal toilet to be toxic to each other. People are tired of all of the pixel greed and item lust. It doesn't just hurt the raid scene, the mentality bleeds all over normal day to day play. Shit rolls downhill.

As has been seen, it's the ambiguity of what type of raiding scene the overlords want that to be honest has somewhat contributed to the current situation. Some people have told me they want cutthroat competition, but we've seen over and over throughout the years unclassic changes made to content in an effort to control the raid scene. None of it has worked. Bandaids that never addressed the real problem. The Culture and Mentality of a rotten playerbase at the very top.

I'm sure there are a few good people in these guilds, but they've done nothing to change the behavior of the people they are tagged with and have chosen to associate with them and perpetuate the cycle. Like the average German citizen during WW2.

They are not part of any solution and made their beds. They can sleep in them.

[conoutoftrol]

Originally Posted by N0tClassic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're both wrong

This is best moment the beta server has had in a long time to break the cycle, purge the filth and usher in a new golden age of beta servering

Once these people are kicked off the box you then implement new raid rules that are very simple

If you're guild is raid suspended 3 times you are immediately transferred to Red permanently. Do not pass go. Bye. Have fun. This hammer is coldly mediated. No petitions. No second chances. Exile.

Think of it as an instanced server for the trash to go wallow in. Their own personal toilet to be toxic to each other. People are tired of all of the pixel greed and item lust. It doesn't just hurt the raid scene, the mentality bleeds all over normal day to day play. Shit rolls downhill.

As has been seen, it's the ambiguity of what type of raiding scene the overlords want that to be honest has somewhat contributed to the current situation. Some people have told me they want cutthroat competition, but we've seen over and over throughout the years unclassic changes made to content in an effort to control the raid scene. None of it has worked. Bandaids that never addressed the real problem. The Culture and Mentality of a rotten playerbase at the very top.

I'm sure there are a few good people in these guilds, but they've done nothing to change the behavior of the people they are tagged with and have chosen to associate with them and perpetuate the cycle. Like the average German citizen during WW2.

They are not part of any solution and made their beds. They can sleep in them.

Novel red recruiting strategy... sadly no one wants to play with you on red. just delete our characters instead ty.