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04-05-2021, 02:25 PM
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It's fun watching you idiots regurgitate everything you see on TV and the written news like you actually know something while leaving out the real pertinent details you're too lazy to look-up. The faith you put in the media on both sides is just saddening. Some information about the new voting laws which can all be verified.
The Water Thing: They set minimum distances from polling facilities for campaigning at 150 feet and 25 from an independent voting stand. Sounds reasonable. What the law changed was that you no longer can leave your campaign stand, walk up to people in line, then walk back to your candidate's booth to get around the no campaigning laws just because you don't have a pin or candidate's shirt on - everyone still sees you go back to your booth. The law also encourages polling centers to provide public access water on site, and YOU CAN STILL BRING YOUR OWN FOOD OR WATER OR PURCHASE FOOD OR WATER AROUND THE FACILITY. It just can't be handed out for free by campaigners trying to skirt the laws. Voting Hours: This bill actually guaranteed increased voting hours. Previously, counties had to open for early voting during primaries and general elections from 9am to 4pm with Sundays not mentioned (Sunday voting was not a regular thing in the past throughout the state before COVID2020 according to what I've found and first hand accounts I've received). Under the new law (2) Saturdays of early voting are now MANDATORY -- from 9am to 5pm at minimum and from 7am to 7pm if the counties desire -- and two Sundays are made optional at the county's discretion. The old law said early voting had to take place during 'normal business hours' on weekdays, leaving counties to decide what counts as 'normal'. The new law sets a specific time period, requiring early voting to be offered from 9am to 5pm. However, it also says counties can open early voting to be offered as early as 7am to 7pm if they desire. In the 2020 general election Fulton, Dekalb, Clayton and various other Democratic strongholds held their early voting hours between 7am and 7pm so they would NOT be forced into reductions.(thanks, CNN) Voter ID: To vote or request an absentee ballot you must provide (1) source of identification. While state issued driver's license or ID number are the most common acceptable forms of ID, the new law allows that if you have neither you can instead provide a utility bill, bank statement, or government issued check receipt as a form of identification (there may be more that aren't listed). That's a pretty low bar of entry considering how many people in GA can now provide the government check receipt from their stimulus payments. People on government services can also use those receipts. Absentee Ballots: Anyone can request an absentee ballot up to 78 days before an election day for any reason if you provide one of the many acceptable forms of ID. The county must mail those out at the latest 29 days before the election. Absentee ballots must now be received 11 days prior to the election (old law was 4 days) to ensure adequate time to verify and count. This was changed due to the expected increase in absentee ballots and so we don't run into counties counting ballots 7 days after the election as we saw during COVID2020. Take note that these ballots can be returned in multiple ways: drop if off at a early voting drop box/station, return via UPSP mail, via the state's online portal, of even via FAX! Other notable election improvements from the law: The new law now REQUIRES a minimum of (1) absentee/early voting drop box IN ALL DISTRICTS where there were no laws requiring it before. This drop box must be located at election offices or early voting sites. I'm murky on the details beyond this initial MANDATORY drop box being located at a polling facility vs any additional drop box being located elsewhere. I have more research to do on the wording here. Another notable improvement is that the law forces voting precincts that had lines of more than one hour in the previous general election, or did not complete voting by one hour after the poll-closing time in the previous election, that the county officials have to reduce the size of the precinct or get more poll workers, voting equipment of both before the next election. This was the most complained about topic that I could find while researching black voter sentiment from 2020 and prior elections in GA. Previously, no law had addressed these long lines and this is considered a big upgrade to minority voting, but is mentioned in almost none of the media research I did aside from one CNN article as a footnote. Another positive to this is it should reduce the 'need' for people to be handing out water in line. Removing Election Officials: County election officials can be removed from their posts if over at least (2) elections over a (2) year period the officials have demonstrated repeated nonfeasance, malfeasance, or gross negligence regarding election law, or if county officials committed at least three violations of election law on board regulations in the last (2) general election cycles and had not sufficiently remedied these violations. This official(s) that are removed, will be replaced by a State Election Board appointed non-partisan individual. This is really the only thing in the bill people should be scoffing at. While the bar is set decently high to remove the officials, appointing an individual through a possibly partisan board doesn't sound right. While this does raise a few eyebrows we might never see it happen, and it would not have helped either Trump or Stacey Abrams with their disputed GA election results. My thoughts: Remember folks, politicians don't really care about your skin color unless they are using it for political advantage. I'm sure GA is full of racist fucks, but at the end of the day these politicians only care about staying in office at all costs like every other politician. I don't buy into the racist narrative about this law because if it's true these politicians are trying to keep people from the polls, they don't care what color you are outside of Red or Blue. I just don't see how this law is really keeping anyone from the polls, though. Being able to prove who you are in some form or another is just part of being a citizen of this country. To say that people shouldn't have to provide the bare minimum of identification or make a bare minimum effort to vote for our elected leaders makes no sense when you think about every other thing in the country you have to provide ID to do or access. They've also said for years that signature verification alone is slow and often-times unreliable. Signatures change over time and can vary wildly making them difficult to authenticate. Feel free to crack open the bill or spend hours of your time trying to counter my findings. I am 100% open to it, but it better not be some vaguely worded MSNBC or CNN article just saying 'this bill adds obstacles to voting for minorities.' You parrots need to get back to the bird cage. | ||
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04-05-2021, 02:45 PM
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04-05-2021, 02:51 PM
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Lol you forgot the mention the whole part where yes, voting hours are expanded in rural counties. For the cities of GA, its backwards. Just so happens that black people mostly live in the cities... So they shortened the hours, took off a few days, and shortened the voting windows all round for the cities. The places where more people live than anywhere else, they have shorter hours. The rural areas have longer hours.
Gee, I wonder why. Its not like black people mostly live in cit- OHHHHHH!!! Not racist though. Just effects black people, minorities, and city dwelling democrats more than republicans. AM radio told him the truth. Here are the facts. Have a read about the ACTUAL changes, not just some retard. Increased state power over counties The new law removes the Georgia secretary of state as the chair of the state elections board. (Former President Donald Trump and other Republicans have attacked the current Republican secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, for refusing to accommodate Trump's baseless claims about the 2020 election.) Instead, the law lets the state legislature -- which has been under unified Republican control since 2005 -- appoint a "nonpartisan" chair of the board. HOW ABOUT THAT SMALLER GOVERNMENT, REPUBLICANS?? LOLOLOLOL And under the new law, if a majority of the five-member board decides that a county's elections officials have been doing their job poorly, the board can suspend those officials and replace them with one person the board has hand-picked to serve as a temporary superintendent, with the same powers the officials had. The new law allows the state board to sideline elections officials in up to four counties at a time. A majority of the board would have to decide that the officials demonstrated "nonfeasance, malfeasance, or gross negligence" in at least two elections over a two-year period, or that the county officials committed at least three violations of election law or board regulations in the last two general election cycles and had not "sufficiently remedied" these violations. This provision is a concern to officials and activists in large Democratic-run counties like Atlanta's Fulton County, whose elections administration has been attacked by former Trump and other Republicans. Guaranteed -- but also limited -- drop boxes The new law requires each Georgia county to have a minimum of one drop box for absentee ballots. In 2020, when drop boxes were used for the first time in Georgia, the boxes were authorized by special pandemic-related rules rather than by long-term legislation. However, the new law also limits how many drop boxes each county can have, how many hours and days the boxes can be open, and where they can be located. The law says that each county can't have more than one drop box per early voting site or per 100,000 active registered voters, whichever number is smaller. This provision will dramatically reduce the number of drop boxes available in some large counties. Fulton County, for example, says it would go from 38 drop boxes in the November election to eight in the future. In addition, the law says that drop boxes need to be located at elections offices or inside early voting locations. And it says the boxes can only be available during the hours that early voting is available. (If the governor declares an emergency, the boxes can be located outdoors.) In 2020, drop boxes could be located outside, available 24 hours a day, and open until the evening of Election Day. So going from 38 to 8 is "expanding" the drop boxes??? You must be a fucking RETARD to believe that. I guess moving them inside so they can only be accessed during business hours was a move to "expand" the voting, huh?? Almost like you want to believe what they told you instead of actually reading the shit. | ||
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