Miscellaneous: Ginesh combine not working

[guineapig]

sources:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=15306
and
http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_...r=035000000000

[astarothel]

Was around in Kunark from the lists I have, but the high trivial value makes me question if it was Classic.

[guineapig]

It's 168 and requires foraged items.

I'm pretty sure unless someone can show that it wasn't in classic it should be on this server.

You could hit 200 skill in brewing on classic couldn't you?

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could hit 200 skill in brewing on classic couldn't you?

I recall doing brewing with Minotaur Hero's Brew, which will get you to 200. I think.

[guineapig]

Booya! found evidece from Allakhazam archive!

If you wish to contribute recipes for creating beverages, please e-mail me

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Note: Tempers are used to create armor

Acorn Oil = Misty Acorn + Water Flask
Ale = barley + malt + water + a cask.
Bleeding Brain = Vodka + Spice + Shotglass + Fire Beetle Eye
Blood Temper = Ogre Swill + Elf Blood + Human Blood + Dwarf Blood
Bog Juice = snake skales + water flask + bottle.
Brandy = 2 red wine + vegetables + spice + shotglass
Earthen Temper = Dwarven Ale + Lava Rock + Couple of Drops o Mercury
Elven wine = Morning dew + foraged berries + wine yeast + bottle
Embalming Fluid = Rubbing Alcohol + 2 bog juice + granite powder
Faydwer Shaker = elven wine + gnomish spirits + dwarven ale + mead + a cask
Fish Wine = Water, Grapes, Fish, Bottle
Flask of Berry juice = 2 berries(foraged) + 1 flask of water (produces 5)
Flask of Fruit juice = 2 Fruit(foraged) + 1 flask of water (produces 5)
Flask of Karana Brown Tea = 2 tea leaves(foraged) + 1 flask of water
Frost Temper = Brandy + Ice Goblin Blood + 2 Essence of Winter
Ginesh = Vegetables (a druid or ranger can help here) + Water + Shotglass + Short of beer
etc....

This is taken from thesilversandbox.net archive, skills tab, brewing guide.

And yes, Minotaur Hero's Brew is listed as well.

[astarothel]

That is the list I have, well one of them rather. The list is from Kunark, not classic >> tempers and embalming fluid

http://www.scribd.com/doc/33292952/Brewing is the current trimmed list I am working with.

[guineapig]

Good list. But it doesn't say anywhere that this combine was not around during classic.
Every ingredient in the combine is something that was used in some other classic recipe.

I can't think of a single reason why this should not be in the game. The only reason it appears as questionable on your list is because of the foraged item but foraged vegetables were very much classic and part of other combines (ie: brandy).

Fetid Essence on the other hand is in the game and definitely shouldn't be!
It's not even on the list you provided.


Currently the train of thought is that it should be in the game unless you have definitive proof that it should not be in the game.
(IE: fine plate armor combines)

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(IE: fine plate armor combines)

Fine plate armor combines went in on 10-13 99, along with a number of other smithing recipes.

Also the Brandy being on that confirmed classic list is my mistake, good catch.
Anything with foraged vegetables should be on the questionable list as of right now.
There's a couple reasons why I have vegetables flagged atm as a point of interest.

There were 3 different major batches of recipes added that used vegetables from what I can tell
-the first came in 6 07 1999, these are mostly classic brewing recipes
-the second came in Kunark and are in a number of 2000+2001 lists for baking and brewing
-the last batch was the one that added Elven and Dwarven Dressings, etc. These are right out.

[guineapig]

Gotcha! Well in that case let us know how your research goes. I'm curious.

[astarothel]

Vodka should be in the confirmed list, it's in the Halas Heaters recipe so I might not have uploaded my most recent version of it, oops.
There's a whole lot of trivs in the 150-168s which has me wondering.

That list is all early Kunark or older. I have managed to trim the last big bunch of added recipes with vodka and veggies, and just have to split the classic from the kunark.

Also going through and doublechecking on yields for everything. Think it's possible some on p1999 aren't returning enough.