Miscellaneous: Ginesh combine not working

[guineapig]

Well finding even one recipe that uses foraged vegetables is a good sign for me.

What about the recipe books in the game? I know baking has them. Wouldn't checking what's in the drink recipe books give an idea of what was released when?

Another thought would be to look at the EQ item ID numbers. Hulgarsh for example is EQ item ID: 16586.
Not sure if they are in any sort of chronological order but if they are you would be able to show what expansion they were released in by what comes before and/or after it. Just a thought...

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about the recipe books in the game? I know baking has them. Wouldn't checking what's in the drink recipe books give an idea of what was released when?

It's an okay place to start, except I know there is some overlap between recipes in the books chronologically in some tradeskills, and I also don't know if some books were updated over time. Some of the recipe books in P1999 (A couple in smithing for example) are just blank, or filled with jumbled words and garbled gobblede**** right now, so will need to hunt them down on a live account or in the web.

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another thought would be to look at the EQ item ID numbers. Hulgarsh for example is EQ item ID: 16586.
Not sure if they are in any sort of chronological order but if they are you would be able to show what expansion they were released in by what comes before and/or after it. Just a thought...

Not sure exactly how itemIDs work, or if they can be relied upon in that way. We all know that there was plenty of stuff in the game ahead of its time, and that it can be in game files without actually being in game.

Leaning towards batch adds by patch/date right now, although there is some oddities that crop up.

Bog Juice is 16581
Elven Wine is 13035
Minotaur Hero's Brew is 19198
Ol' Tujim's Fierce Brew is 16585
Short Ale is 13018
Short Beer is 13032
Tumpy Tonic is 12114
Vodka is 16582
(AFAIK those are all classic)


Frost Temper is 22531
Scale Temper is 22513
Sea Temper is 22546
Shadow Temper is 22512
(Kunark cultural tempers)
Flask of Karana Brown Tea 22557
Flask of Berry Juice 22558


Elven Dressing is 58275
(wayyyyyyyyyy later timewise as we know)

Embalming Fluid though (confirmed Kunark) is 12410 ???
Legion Lager (confirmed Kunark) is 12463 ???
(No clue what is going on with 12XXX, possibly flagged as quest components and go in a different cluster range??? Tumpy Tonic is also 12XXX)

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As an aside vegetables are 13419 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[guineapig]

It would make sense for them to reserve some sets of numbers in the database and so far you seem to be coming up with good explanations for the orders of things.

Nice work man!

[astarothel]

Bump, updated brewing list.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/33332961/Brewing

Will take a peek at all the ItemIDs on those tonight.

[guineapig]

eqtraders.com archived from 1999:

Brewing

Item


Ingredients


Container
Trivial
Mead yeast, hops, malt cask 40
Short ale barley, hops, water cask
Short beer barley, hops, malt cask
Ale barley, malt, water cask 70
Ol' Tumjim's Fierce Brew barley, hops, yeast, malt cask 135
Ogre swill malt, yeast, froglok meat cask
Tumpy's tonic kiola nut, water (none)
Gypsy wine grapes, wine yeast, fire beetle eye bottle
Red wine grapes, wine yeast, foraged berries bottle
White wine grapes, wine yeast, foraged fruit bottle
Gnomish spirits rice, spider legs, rat ears bottle
Fish wine water, grapes, fish bottle
Bog juice water, snake scale bottle
Vodka 2 short beers, water, foraged vegetables bottle 135
Hulgarsh 2 vodka, water, fishing bait (yields: 3 bottles) cask
Bleeding brain (yields 2) vodka, spices, fire beetle eye shotglass
Ginesh vegetables, water, short beer (ale?) shotglass
Heady kiola 2 kiola sap, water bottle
Khalish fruit, vegetables, water bottle
Elven wine morning dew, foraged berries, wine yeast bottle
Honey mead hops, malt, royal jelly, yeast cask

http://web.archive.org/web/199911280...eqtraders.com/

[guineapig]

BUMP!

This is proven classic!

[astarothel]

Most ItemID batches are apparently by update.

There appears to be no major blanks/filler spaces left at the time once you get into the 5 digit IDs.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by astarothel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most ItemID batches are apparently by update.

There appears to be no major blanks/filler spaces left at the time once you get into the 5 digit IDs.

Forgive me, does that enforce my case for the item to be in the game?

Or is Chicanery gonna have to choke a bi.... JK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[guineapig]

BUMP!

Proven to be classic.

[guineapig]

BUMP!

This and Hulgarsh are both important for skilling up brewing post 135.