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Cerlic Starting Stats - Are Stamina & Chrisma really JUST a min/max choice?
I'm planning on making a Cleric (still not sure whether he will be a High Elf or a Dark Elf) and I keep seeing people say that most people should spend 25 starting points on Wisdom (the last 5 seems to be a tossup) and that only Min/Maxers would pump Stamina and/or Charisma at character creation. But, is that really true? I'm still new to EQ, but I have put in a few hundred hours at this point. So far I am NEVER full Mana in a group except for the very beginning of it and then the advantage is gone. So, I get like 1 extra cast over a period lasting hours. Meanwhile, I go full Health many times during that period, making me think Stamina is actually more useful. And Charisma, well, I've read some threads that seem to show it is fairly important for Clerics; certainly more important than 1 extra cast every X number of hours.
So, is the conventional wisdom that Wisdom (hehe) at character creation is the casual choice really correct? Or is it simply a bad choice? Because even as someone who has yet to raid it seems like a bad thing to spend my starting points on. | ||
Last edited by Sonnenkrieger; 12-27-2019 at 11:05 PM..
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Go full dex and report back with results
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Why even worry about those points if you are even considering rolling a dark elf? if you see yourself raiding constantly, go dorf and max stamina. if you see yourself staying out of raid content mostly, take a human who follows innoruk and put all your points into charisma. if fashionquest is so important to you though, all these points are irrelevant.
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Also, Dwarves can't wear robes and I plan to play long term. | |||
Last edited by Sonnenkrieger; 12-28-2019 at 01:06 AM..
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Edit: and btw this the int casters forum, there is a priest forum. | |||
Last edited by DMN; 12-28-2019 at 01:12 AM..
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I like this idea of Charisma for a cleric. I dont normally find Wisdom to be tough to soft cap come Kunark. Easy p-z epic quest with big dick wis. A ridiculously awesome high wis BIS shoulder peice from Sky that is so common it rots. There are some early items now that even give decent Wisdom. As for this era, Wis would be my creation point choice. If I was rolling in Kunark I might seriously consider Charisma. I use pacify late game as cleric to move around, and its spooky as all hell due to crit fails. That Cha would be super useful couples with a few high cha items that you carry with you. If you dont plan to find, create or invest in Cha gear as well. I dont think those creation Cha points will do Jack shit. The right answer for most people is creation points in to Wisdom. MOST people. | |||
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Edit: actually empirically estimated chances 75 cha would be like 41% crit lull chance 100 would be 34% | |||
Last edited by DMN; 12-28-2019 at 01:08 PM..
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It's relatively easy to reach the soft cap in wisdom and if you casually raid you can get some nice items (epic, Thurg/SS armor, Symbol of Tunarian Worship, Weight of the Gods) pretty easily that can really boost your mana pool. If you went high elf, I would not worry about putting any points into wisdom. If you go other races, I'd dump ~10 points into it.
CHA is very situational, but when you absolutely need to calm your way through a dungeon it's nice to have. In fact, I have a HM backpack on me at all times, full of CHA gear, just for that. In addition to the Tranny Crown, there is the Siryn Hair Hood, that is only +13 CHA but 10% the price of the Crown. I did not appreciate the benefit of CHA until I started playing an ENC and realized how much of a difference 50 CHA could make in getting crit calm resists. Since you draw agro pretty easily from a few heals, the extra STA could be nice. At level 60, +25 STA is +75 HP. It may not sound like much, but I have definitely gated/zoned out of dungeons with less than that at least 50 times. Finally, a lot of the low-mid level cleric gear (i.e. bronze armor) weighs a lot. If you're not twinked, you're gonna be encumbered most of the time until you can upgrade to better gear. For this reason, some people recommend putting points into STR, but I view this as a temporary benefit, so I would be hesitant to put points there (especially on Blue, since gear is relatively cheap). | ||
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Too late for second edit but it's even more stark at the upper end of the cha spectrum.
200 cha = ~7% crit lull 185 cha = ~14% At those levels the cleric who didn't invest 25 points in cha is twice as likely to get a crit lull. | ||
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