Project 1999

Go Back   Project 1999 > Green Community > Green Server Chat

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-20-2019, 12:11 PM
Forsh Forsh is offline
Kobold

Forsh's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 101
Default Legacy Items & Mosscovered Twig

Was just watching this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwiV6UNIkmk and I was thinking that I never had a chance to get a Mosscovered Twig before it was removed from EQ. Does this fall into the category of "legacy item"?
  #2  
Old 10-20-2019, 12:23 PM
whitebandit whitebandit is offline
Fire Giant

whitebandit's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Arizona Bitches
Posts: 645
Default

MCT stopped dropping and then was retroactively nerfed, I would say it is a legacy item.
__________________
Kite (60- Preserver)
Lizard (60- Grandmaster)

Lich (56+ Heretic)
Zelda (45 Shaman)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Derubael View Post
silence, 'hardcore scum'
  #3  
Old 10-20-2019, 12:33 PM
Wenai Wenai is offline
VIP / Contributor

Wenai's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Halifax, NS, Canada
Posts: 1,083
Send a message via MSN to Wenai
Default

Yes. Definitely falls into the category of legacy item as you can no longer get that item. There are a few Kunark items that are retroactively nerfed, and a few that are not. To this day it honestly felt like how they did item changes was dependent on the developer that was doing them.

Example:
- Runed Fighter's Staff was removed, and retroactively removed Warrior from the usable classes. I believe this was stated to be for balance reasons.
- Mosscovered Twig was removed, and retroactively changed it to secondary only. This was definitely for balance reasons.
- Fungus Covered Great Staff was removed, but never retroactively changed. It obviously introduces some balance issues. So why would it not just be retroactively changed to be clickable from inventory by only DRU and SHM? Clearly they had the ability to do that since Circlet of Shadow was clickable from inventory by only NEC and SHD. It would've been easy to just change it to be clickable by the correct classes only. Instead we end up with a post-nerf version that requires it to be equipped? Wut? Combine that with the fact that the pre-nerf just continues floating around with the ability to click from inventory by anyone and it is just confusing.

A lot of the things they did back in the day just made no sense given immediate examples already in the game.
  #4  
Old 10-20-2019, 05:47 PM
Cen Cen is offline
Planar Protector

Cen's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 2,233
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wenai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Yes. Definitely falls into the category of legacy item as you can no longer get that item. There are a few Kunark items that are retroactively nerfed, and a few that are not. To this day it honestly felt like how they did item changes was dependent on the developer that was doing them.

Example:
- Runed Fighter's Staff was removed, and retroactively removed Warrior from the usable classes. I believe this was stated to be for balance reasons.
- Mosscovered Twig was removed, and retroactively changed it to secondary only. This was definitely for balance reasons.
- Fungus Covered Great Staff was removed, but never retroactively changed. It obviously introduces some balance issues. So why would it not just be retroactively changed to be clickable from inventory by only DRU and SHM? Clearly they had the ability to do that since Circlet of Shadow was clickable from inventory by only NEC and SHD. It would've been easy to just change it to be clickable by the correct classes only. Instead we end up with a post-nerf version that requires it to be equipped? Wut? Combine that with the fact that the pre-nerf just continues floating around with the ability to click from inventory by anyone and it is just confusing.

A lot of the things they did back in the day just made no sense given immediate examples already in the game.
I think that's what makes the Manastone the most interesting example. The item sort of doesn't actually get nerfed whatsoever technically outside of not dropping, but just doesn't come along to future content. Wonder if any other items got that treatment
__________________
  #5  
Old 10-20-2019, 05:37 PM
Forsh Forsh is offline
Kobold

Forsh's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 101
Default

I would love to try out a prenerf Mosscovered Twig because the DPS rumors have always been legendary.
  #6  
Old 10-20-2019, 05:40 PM
whitebandit whitebandit is offline
Fire Giant

whitebandit's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Arizona Bitches
Posts: 645
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Forsh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I would love to try out a prenerf Mosscovered Twig because the DPS rumors have always been legendary.
i tried so hard to get my MCT before they nerfed thinking they wouldnt nerf all the OG ones, but alas they did. It was fun.
__________________
Kite (60- Preserver)
Lizard (60- Grandmaster)

Lich (56+ Heretic)
Zelda (45 Shaman)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Derubael View Post
silence, 'hardcore scum'
  #7  
Old 10-20-2019, 05:51 PM
Argh Argh is offline
Planar Protector

Argh's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,166
Default

DPS on it was ok, but it allowed for you to solo push to break interrupts which was great, but doesn't matter anymore.
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:30 AM.


Everquest is a registered trademark of Daybreak Game Company LLC.
Project 1999 is not associated or affiliated in any way with Daybreak Game Company LLC.
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.