Hybrid Exp Penalty Affects The Entire Group

[Baler]

The 40% Exp Penalty that is placed on hybrids.
(Paladin / Shadowknight / Ranger / Bard -40%)
Affects how much exp everyone in the group gets.

Hybrids get the first cut of exp and what's left over goes to everyone else in the group.
Meaning you get a significantly smaller amount of exp per kill when grouped with a hybrid.

Don't group with hybrids till Jan 2001 Velious patch.

[zodium]

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[jacob54311]

Trolling or...?

[Evets]

Never did get why it was this way... hybrids aren't even that powerful.

[tinklepee]

I only group with hybrids for sexual favors

[zaneosak]

Hybrid don't take the first cut. It's all relative to level of each other in the group and what class race everybody is. If the hybrid is lower level than you, it won't be as noticeable. As someone who has been duoing with a bard and using an xp calculator..... Usually having him instead of a non hybrid adds 10 to 20 kills more per level. Usually resulting in an extra 25 to 60 mins of play time. In a full group setting this could delay you an hour or so but it's not enough to alienate people or wait for a tank that isn't a hybrid.

If you're alienating hybrids for this reason you should also be banning people higher than 1 level above you for the same reason or else you are either a hypocrite or an idiot or both.

[uygi]

Hybrids get a bigger cut of the XP, just like higher levels do. INT casters have 1/4 the penalty as hybrids, don’t group with them either. All shaman races have penalties, don’t group with shamans obv. Some zones don’t have max ZEMs, don’t XP in those zones.

Obviously the only appropriate group is all halfling rogues and warriors, they have bonuses so they’re the only group that gains XP til Jan 2001 patch.

Hell, there’s no serverwide XP bonus right now. Don’t XP until there is one!

[uygi]

Originally Posted by zaneosak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hybrid don't take the first cut. It's all relative to level of each other in the group and what class race everybody is. If the hybrid is lower level than you, it won't be as noticeable. As someone who has been duoing with a bard and using an xp calculator..... Usually having him instead of a non hybrid adds 10 to 20 kills more per level. Usually resulting in an extra 25 to 60 mins of play time. In a full group setting this could delay you an hour or so but it's not enough to alienate people or wait for a tank that isn't a hybrid.

If you're alienating hybrids for this reason you should also be banning people higher than 1 level above you for the same reason or else you are either a hypocrite or an idiot or both.

It’s pretty simple, the penalty is a multiplier for the XP required for the toon; A human paladin requires 1.4x the total XP to advance as compared to a human cleric. A separate calculation is how much of the groups XP/kill each toon gets, which is just (individual’s lifetime XP sum)/(whole group’s lifetime XP sum).

It’s a total myth that a hybrid being in the group reduces XP awarded, but the hybrid does take a larger cut than a non-hybrid. A full group with a hybrid levels only slightly slower (per kill). If somebody is advocating a warrior or monk tank over hybrid, that inefficiency is going to be a bigger hit to XP than a hybrid penalty (with current gear certainly, arguable in Kunark).

[Baler]

Didn't mean to offend anyone. Just wanted to start a topic of discussion about the hybrid penalty. I shared my feelings on it, as have others. The extreme responses are expected I suppose but they don't fix the hybrid penalty. Let's try to keep this civil, please.

[zodium]

you can fix the hybrid penalty by not caring how fast your exp bar fills up