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Old 04-20-2015, 06:34 PM
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Yeah, that isn't my personal extrapolation, this is a reiteration from conversations with CMs on this rule set.

My personal thought Is that we are wrong for thinking that class R is for up and coming guilds. Because the rotation is beyond top heavy with guilds that should be class C, and the GMs don't want to force people to move, Rogaen will likely remove the class system come Velious. With a time stamp on the rotation, it is not worth discussing specifics for up and coming guilds since we are the last to experience it.
Don't twist this with guilds that you personally think should be moved. There's a giant difference between chasing 1-3 targets in a weekend to the 8-12 that TMO/IB push for. Asgard went to C specifically to pick off class C repop mobs and potentially grab some targets here and there, if BDA were planning to move to C it would be to go after VP targets which we aren't prepared for commitment wise.

Any guild not in C is in R. Anonymous would like to start fighting it out for targets, what happens if/when they punt on something? They don't fit Pint's criteria that he just laid out.
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Old 04-20-2015, 06:52 PM
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Don't twist this with guilds that you personally think should be moved. There's a giant difference between chasing 1-3 targets in a weekend to the 8-12 that TMO/IB push for. Asgard went to C specifically to pick off class C repop mobs and potentially grab some targets here and there, if BDA were planning to move to C it would be to go after VP targets which we aren't prepared for commitment wise.

Any guild not in C is in R. Anonymous would like to start fighting it out for targets, what happens if/when they punt on something? They don't fit Pint's criteria that he just laid out.
the best thing for anonymous is for you guys to get out of their way so they can use R to learn the raid scene, the only way anonymous ends up with a 2 spawn penalty is if one of you petitions them for messing up. so while the rules might not favor anonymous, all they have to do on a mess up is bow out for the spawn and hope that the guilds in R will treat them fairly. if you work within the framework we have then these perceived issues for noob guilds are not real issues unless y'all make them so.
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Old 04-20-2015, 06:59 PM
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the best thing for anonymous is for you guys to get out of their way so they can use R to learn the raid scene, the only way anonymous ends up with a 2 spawn penalty is if one of you petitions them for messing up. so while the rules might not favor anonymous, all they have to do on a mess up is bow out for the spawn and hope that the guilds in R will treat them fairly. if you work within the framework we have then these perceived issues for noob guilds are not real issues unless y'all make them so.

But reporting a noob guild helps solve class Rs biggest, most long-standing problem of guild bloating... And we've gone to such great lengths to correct this atrocity.

Maybe we're saying that if there is a way to suspend these guys then it's going to happen in the name of making them stronger for the future?
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