the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[walfreyydo]

Wait until they lock up your wife when she miscarries

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by hobart [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't understands how this works. Every time the court rules on something it becomes part of the body of federal law as laid out in the constitutional framework. The court gives rights by definition and has been doing so forever. It should not be in the business of taking rights away. Ever.

Not quite true. It can set precedent but that precedent has to be grounded in the constitution.

It became obvious to me as I read into the legal reasoning behind Roe vs Wade that it would never hold up to scrutiny. The only reason it survived for so long is because everyone was afraid to be the one to strike it down, in my opinion.

Read into it. Read into the odd "right of privacy" they used to set that precedent, which isn't even in the fourteenth amendment in the first place.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure they need to get lucky a few hundred times

ratchet effect if the topic is permanently immanentized in each particular decision.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not quite true. It can set precedent but that precedent has to be grounded in the constitution.

Pretty sure women aren't mentioned at all in the constitution

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure women aren't mentioned at all in the constitution

Have you ever heard the legend of Abigail the Despot?

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by peterpal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://twitter.com/RonBrownstein/st...41347931918337

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have you ever heard the legend of Abigail the Despot?

I remember Laura Linney urging Paul Giamatti in the miniseries

Even the "nice" founding fathers were pretty shitty, tbh, and here we are stuck trying to untangle patriarchy all these years later while a bunch of rich dudes try real hard to put it all back together

Throw away the constitution

[Jibartik]

If you own an electric car = you would have been a nazi in 1940s germany.

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But there is no constitutional right to contraception. It's just not there. Just like abortion. It's not in the constitution, anywhere, no matter how some lawyers try to spin interpretations of amendments. It's not there.

It's a document from over 200 years ago, these kinds of modern issues are not contained within. They must be dealt with through state legislatures. The founding fathers did not add contraception or abortion to the constitution. They weren't even part of society back then, so to say the constitution guarantees them is quite frankly a lie.

And no, I'm not talking about how flawed it is to rely on a document written over 200 years ago and does not adapt with the changing times. I'm talking simply about what's contained within the constitution, and abortion and contraception are not there. Simple as that.

I guarantee 99% of the people freaking out over this decision have no clue how the Supreme Court even came to the flawed conclusion in Roe vs Wade that abortion was a constitutionally protected right. They have no clue. They also have no clue that this doesn't make abortion illegal everywhere, it just means it's up to state legislatures because it's not in the constitution.

I don’t think the constitution could stipulate everything we’d ever expect to be a law. We have to interpret the spirit of it it to some degree. I don’t think you should have the right to junk food

Doesn’t really matter what I think though, does it?

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not quite true. It can set precedent but that precedent has to be grounded in the constitution.

It became obvious to me as I read into the legal reasoning behind Roe vs Wade that it would never hold up to scrutiny. The only reason it survived for so long is because everyone was afraid to be the one to strike it down, in my opinion.

Read into it. Read into the odd "right of privacy" they used to set that precedent, which isn't even in the fourteenth amendment in the first place.

Serious question. We have graft and grift, we’re bankrupt and can’t fund retirement for most Americans (nor healthcare). Does the fiscally Conservative party going down the path of extreme unpopularity by banning things like birth control help us as a nation?

Letter of the law I agree with you, the constitution doesn’t make birth control a rigjt. But damn man, is drinking a right? Is smoking a cigarette a right? Is having a children a right? We assume many things based on our collective conscience as a nation, and I would posit that drinking and cigarette smoking should be illegal before birth control. The constitution not being explicit on those topics doesn’t really change much.