Game Mechanics: No damage = Kill Steal?

Smashed · #1 10-21-2009, 09:12 PM

I died in upper guk, forgot to bind nearby so I had to run from north ro. On my run through oasis I saw a group killing a ghoul. We all know how fun corpse runs are, so I decided to liven it up by seeing if I could correctly time a slam on the ghoul they were fighting as I ran straight by with SoW. I was naked, so I knew I wouldn't do any damage.

[Wed Oct 21 20:49:24 2009] You try to bash a ghoul, but a ghoul is INVULNERABLE!

then 10 seconds later:
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:35 2009] You gain experience!!

I didn't even realize I had gained xp until I saw:
[Wed Oct 21 20:50:14 2009] Amax shouts, 'someone just KS that ghoul?'

At first I thought he was just being stupid and giving me a hard time for hitting his ghoul. But, then I looked at my combat logs, and sure enough I got xp. This is a pretty big bug?

My full log:
[Wed Oct 21 20:47:51 2009] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
[Wed Oct 21 20:48:07 2009] You have entered Oasis of Marr.
[Wed Oct 21 20:48:41 2009] You are out of food and drink.
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:07 2009] Loafius's song ends.
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:08 2009] Lucifer begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:09 2009] Lucifer's casting is interrupted!
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:09 2009] A deepwater crocodile bashes Lucifer for 4 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:09 2009] Jonnarn kicks a deepwater crocodile for 8 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:11 2009] Loafius's song ends.
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:11 2009] A deepwater crocodile bites Lucifer for 6 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:11 2009] Jonnarn tries to hit a deepwater crocodile, but misses!
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:11 2009] Lucifer punches a deepwater crocodile for 1 point of damage.
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:11 2009] Lucifer begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:12 2009] Loafius tries to slash a deepwater crocodile, but misses!
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:12 2009] Loafius's song ends.
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:14 2009] Urizen begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:14 2009] Kaleadar begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:15 2009] Kaleadar's casting is interrupted!
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:23 2009] A ghoul slashes Amax for 14 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:23 2009] A ghoul tries to slash Amax, but misses!
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:24 2009] A ghoul kicks Vonartik for 13 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:24 2009] You try to bash a ghoul, but a ghoul is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:25 2009] Vonartik crushes a ghoul for 20 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:27 2009] You are out of food and drink.
[Wed Oct 21 20:49:35 2009] You gain experience!!
[Wed Oct 21 20:50:13 2009] You are out of food and drink.
[Wed Oct 21 20:50:14 2009] Amax shouts, 'someone just KS that ghoul?'
[Wed Oct 21 20:50:15 2009] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
[Wed Oct 21 20:50:31 2009] You have entered Southern Desert of Ro.

Shin Noir · #2 10-21-2009, 10:20 PM

I've seen this before, while playing on another EQEMU server. And it is indeed a bizarre one and very situational... I haven't tried to derail why it happens yet. It's also interesting your bash responded with him being invulnerable. Hmm! Maybe non-magic weapon on magical creature related bug ?

Reiker · #3 10-21-2009, 11:44 PM

You need magic shoulders to slam a magic creature or a magic shield to bash.

lapis_lazuli · #4 10-21-2009, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You need magic shoulders to slam a magic creature or a magic shield to bash.

Thanks, Number 1.

maximum · #5 10-22-2009, 10:06 AM

Yeah, I saw this happen. A naked troll just pops by while we're grinding down a ghoul, and then somehow gets the kill credit. Definitely a glitch of some kind.

My group wasn't mad, just extremely curious how this happened.

Lich · #6 10-22-2009, 01:33 PM

I was in that group. It was indeed an odd occurrence. We also had a cleric do 1 point of damage to a pull and she received credit. These things happen.

Smashed · #7 10-22-2009, 02:31 PM

This may be unrelated, but something similar happened last night. What can I say, I tend to be a magnet for free xp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. I zoned into highpass and some group trained me. I didnt cast any spells, or make any attacks. Orc died somehow, and I got the xp. Heres the important bits:

[Thu Oct 22 00:00:30 2009] You have entered Highpass Hold.

[Thu Oct 22 00:01:00 2009] An orc warrior has been poisoned.
[Thu Oct 22 00:01:00 2009] an orc warrior died.
[Thu Oct 22 00:01:00 2009] You gain experience!!

Full log:
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:15 2009] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:30 2009] You have entered Highpass Hold.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:32 2009] It begins to rain.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:34 2009] You told Cwint, 'zoned into highpass'
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:37 2009] Players in EverQuest:
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:37 2009] ---------------------------

[Thu Oct 22 00:00:37 2009] [6 Druid] Cwint (Halfling) ZONE: kithicor
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:37 2009] There is 1 player in EverQuest.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:39 2009] Cwint tells you, 'k'
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:42 2009] an orc soldier scowls at you, ready to attack -- looks like a reasonably safe opponent.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:43 2009] an orc warrior scowls at you, ready to attack -- looks quite risky, but might be worth a try.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:46 2009] an orc soldier says 'Filthy Humans like you must die!'
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:47 2009] an orc acolyte begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:48 2009] an orc berserker says 'It's Unknowns like you who have ruined your own lands, You'll not ruin mine!'
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:50 2009] an orc warrior says 'It's Unknowns like you who have ruined your own lands, You'll not ruin mine!'
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:50 2009] an orc warrior says 'Argg!!! This is now orc territory and all trespassers must DIE!!!'
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:50 2009] An orc warrior slashes Zorgo for 7 points of damage.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:50 2009] An orc warrior kicks Zorgo for 3 points of damage.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:52 2009] An orc soldier crushes Ruthless for 7 points of damage.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:52 2009] An orc soldier kicks Ruthless for 8 points of damage.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:52 2009] an orc acolyte begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:52 2009] an orc medic's casting is interrupted!
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:53 2009] an orc medic begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:54 2009] an orc warrior says 'It's Unknowns like you who have ruined your own lands, You'll not ruin mine!'
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:55 2009] an orc acolyte's casting is interrupted!
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:56 2009] an orc medic regains concentration and continues casting.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:56 2009] an orc medic's casting is interrupted!
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:56 2009] an orc warrior says 'Unknowns have no place in our realm!'
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:56 2009] An orc warrior tries to kick YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:57 2009] An orc medic hits YOU for 1 point of damage.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:57 2009] An orc warrior hits YOU for 1 point of damage.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:58 2009] You have become better at Dodge! (21)
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:58 2009] An orc soldier crushes YOU for 17 points of damage.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:58 2009] You have become better at Dodge! (22)
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:58 2009] An orc soldier kicks YOU for 4 points of damage.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:58 2009] An orc berserker tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:58 2009] An orc berserker kicks YOU for 3 points of damage.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:58 2009] You have become better at Dodge! (23)
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:58 2009] An orc warrior slashes YOU for 17 points of damage.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:58 2009] An orc warrior kicks YOU for 12 points of damage.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:59 2009] an orc medic begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Oct 22 00:00:59 2009] an orc acolyte scowls at you, ready to attack -- looks quite risky, but might be worth a try.
[Thu Oct 22 00:01:00 2009] An orc warrior has been poisoned.
[Thu Oct 22 00:01:00 2009] an orc warrior died.
[Thu Oct 22 00:01:00 2009] You gain experience!!
[Thu Oct 22 00:01:02 2009] You feel drowsy.
[Thu Oct 22 00:01:03 2009] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
[Thu Oct 22 00:01:24 2009] You have entered Kithicor Woods.