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Old 08-14-2021, 10:09 PM
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Take Valheim/ARK and inject it with EQ and you could have a serious contender.

I would limit the server size to around 1,000 and just create multiple shards that any player could travel to and from. Allow private server hosting like in ARK:Survival Evolved and let players keep to themselves and guilds if they want to. It would solve a lot of the issues mmorpgs have with overly toxic players being disruptive.

The next great mmo would have to be more sandboxy than a themepark imo.
This does seem cool

And yeah. Sandbox all the way.

And don't destroy emergent gameplay immediately to try and control subscription time.

And f2p and botting or gameplay that encourages botting and automation is what really hurts subscriptions.
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Old 08-15-2021, 12:37 AM
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I would go buy to play. It worked for ARK, you just gotta downsize on the server size. Give people the option to run their own servers and partner with the company that rents them.

One thing ive learned from years of observing mmorpgs is that people don't really want to play with everyone and will form smaller communities within the larger servers. Allow the sweaty players options to keep to themselves away from the casuals and it would be beneficiary to all.
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Old 08-15-2021, 08:36 AM
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I would go buy to play. It worked for ARK, you just gotta downsize on the server size. Give people the option to run their own servers and partner with the company that rents them.

One thing ive learned from years of observing mmorpgs is that people don't really want to play with everyone and will form smaller communities within the larger servers. Allow the sweaty players options to keep to themselves away from the casuals and it would be beneficiary to all.
u r very eloquent and full of deep knowledge, thank u for echoing my thoughts in a more coherent form
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Old 08-15-2021, 08:40 AM
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Being able to fully loot other people's corpses with /consent in early EQ is the most naive decision in mmo history. And it came *after* UO!
I liked it, it forced you to take the risk and find out if you could trust someone or else get it yourself
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Old 08-15-2021, 08:52 AM
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I liked it, it forced you to take the risk and find out if you could trust someone or else get it yourself
The devs weren’t naiive that thefts would happen - eq was a wild west horror survival - potential betrayal with /consent was by design.

They were naiive that players wouldn’t be complacent in their trust and would be crybabies when they gave their stuff away to someone untrustworthy.
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Old 08-15-2021, 11:13 AM
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Valhiem I thought literally would become a wow compeditor haha
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Old 08-15-2021, 04:20 PM
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Allow the sweaty players options to keep to themselves away from the casuals and it would be beneficiary to all.
Here comes multiplatforming with Bioshock to save us all.

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Valhiem I thought literally would become a wow competitor haha
You did? that is off base by a mile.

Edit: Some players were on this board comparing it to classic EQ. Broken minds.
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Old 08-15-2021, 04:25 PM
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Did u play it? it had the spark joy.

if it were a public server based game I think it would be going strong today.

Was basically Minecraft meets Warcraft.
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Old 08-15-2021, 05:41 PM
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Valheim is still in early access it could get better. ARK was a shit show when it first launched in EA and actually developed into a nice game.
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Old 08-15-2021, 07:24 PM
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This does seem cool
It's not EQ.

Imagine disliking something so much that the only part of it you get off on is bothering people on message boards.
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