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Old 01-28-2021, 04:49 PM
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So imagine this scenario. You play a monk and have been trying for a Gharn's for years. Some monk that joined yesterday attends his first Vulak raid, and win's a Gharn's isntead of you because RNGeeezus blessed his roll that day.

How would you feel?
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Old 01-28-2021, 04:54 PM
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So imagine this scenario. You play a monk and have been trying for a Gharn's for years. Some monk that joined yesterday attends his first Vulak raid, and win's a Gharn's isntead of you because RNGeeezus blessed his roll that day.

How would you feel?
The same as if i've been in a LCY group for 3 hours, player leaves, new player joins, T staff drops, new player rolls. Wins..
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Old 01-28-2021, 04:54 PM
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why add a complex currency system to add to the stress?
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I never said dkp was complex
You literally said those words...
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Old 01-28-2021, 04:57 PM
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It eliminates favoritism and conspiracies of favoritism.
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Old 01-28-2021, 04:58 PM
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It eliminates favoritism and conspiracies of favoritism.
Who does dkp favor?
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Old 01-28-2021, 04:58 PM
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long time raider in guild: grinds out and always shows up on time and excellent performance

new player who just joined guild yesterday: no experience and a newb

>cool item drops

>hey guys lets random instead of DKP

new player gets it

>ez clap
QED. You want to random on stuff that takes a combined effort, go fuck off to diablo 3 or WoW. Even when I didn't play as much (thanks Covid) I felt this way. I was a 40% raider and saved up my dkp to buy stuff. The people who put in the effort in (the high attendance folks) deserve the items they buy with their dkp, because it takes work!

Re: the argument about losing a gharns vs losing a t-staff, not even in the same order of magnitude, though I understand the sentiment. Any chucklefuck can get in LCY. Vulak in this meta is a cruel master.
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Old 01-28-2021, 04:59 PM
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You literally said those words...
Ok, yeah. What I meant is it adds a complexity that is not needed not that the system itself is a complex one.
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Old 01-28-2021, 05:01 PM
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Every loot system is bad in some fashion.

Seen a lot of guilds on WoW doing things like soft reserves with prio points and EP/GP which seem pretty fair.
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Old 01-28-2021, 05:01 PM
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They don't even random in WoW.....and there's a reason they don't, all the best players would nope the F out of there.
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Old 01-28-2021, 05:04 PM
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I agree. No system is perfect, but DKP seems relatively balanced as long as the implementors can keep a handle on inflation and try to match incoming vs. outgoing dkp.

OP, you might want to consider joining TSS. They use a slightly modified /random on their raid loot.
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