The Shadow Archer (And Holy Archer)?

[Ivory]

So, after getting to 55 with a ranger and archery....I've decided to up things and try out my theorized shadow archer.

The idea is by using the pet + agro + a bow ....the shadow archer would be a kiting king! Even outdamaging and out-pacing a ranger in the soloing category!

It's a pretty obvious advantage when an SK is taking reds at 20 easily (or a sand giant at level 10).

The real question is how it maintains this advantage as it ages. Bow cap is 75 for each of them (ouch) ....but at least SK get a couple things that make up for it a little bit (AC drain and STR drain). I theorize it will be a strong soloer till mid 50's (but since they have fear, perhaps even after 50 against summoning mobs?).

Basically, with a decent bow and large enough mana pool...it seems viable.

...........

The next issue is the holy archer....a paladin archer.

Now, this one I have a harder time with. Against undead, sure their nukes would help supplement damage (and they can root, which makes shooting and medding much more possible).

BUT, without the pet or dots or other DD spells....they just don't seem to match a shadow archers potential.

Perhaps if they were to focus very heavily on mana pool and act as a stronger supplemental healer in groups? They suffer from the same lack low skill as a shadow archer....so trying to rely solely on the bow seems more troublesome (especially into 30s-40s...unless they get a skydarkener, then they can hold out till 50's).

But, overall, it just doesn't seem like they have enough damage potential to really be that strong. The healing is nice....but is it enough to make up for the damage issues?

Anyhow....would be curious if anyone else has been focusing on archery as a knight? Shadow archer or holy archer? So far (20) my experience with a shadow archer with a decent bow is they are the strongest soloers in the game as long as they have room to move.....which is pretty interesting.

[Muggens]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So far (20) my experience with a shadow archer with a decent bow is they are the strongest soloers in the game as long as they have room to move.....which is pretty interesting.

? A shadow knight using bow is the strongest soloing class in the game ?
The ranger stuff is pretty cool but not sure if you're serious now.

[Ivory]

Originally Posted by Muggens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

? A shadow knight using bow is the strongest soloing class in the game ?
The ranger stuff is pretty cool but not sure if you're serious now.

Till 20 it is. I was mowing through reds in oasis non stop with just a sow and my bow. No other class or twink can do that....not even a fungi tunic warrior or monk would be able to do that.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Till 20 it is. I was mowing through reds in oasis non stop with just a sow and my bow. No other class or twink can do that....not even a fungi tunic warrior or monk would be able to do that.

I'm a bit unclear as to how one class that can use a bow and bum a sow is able to solo reds in oasis, but the other classes that can use bows and bum sows are not able to solo reds in oasis.

What about twinking a barbarian rogue with a bunch of tink bags and throwing boulders and sow pots? THE BOULDER ROGUE!

[Ivory]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm a bit unclear as to how one class that can use a bow and bum a sow is able to solo reds in oasis, but the other classes that can use bows and bum sows are not able to solo reds in oasis.

What about twinking a barbarian rogue with a bunch of tink bags and throwing boulders and sow pots? THE BOULDER ROGUE!

They can....but the damage will be a little less and they get into trouble without sow.

It isn't just about till level 20 viability....it is about viability beyond that. Till 50 or even 60!

[Lorian]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about twinking a barbarian rogue with a bunch of tink bags and throwing boulders and sow pots? THE BOULDER ROGUE!

Replace the boulders with pouches of mistletoe powder THE BEAST ROGUE

[koros]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Till 20 it is. I was mowing through reds in oasis non stop with just a sow and my bow. No other class or twink can do that....not even a fungi tunic warrior or monk would be able to do that.

If you're going to aggro kite, which isn't fast xp mind you, a level 20 mage or necro pet will "mow" through reds a lot faster than a level 8 necro pet + bow.

[Ivory]

Originally Posted by koros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you're going to aggro kite, which isn't fast xp mind you, a level 20 mage or necro pet will "mow" through reds a lot faster than a level 8 necro pet + bow.

For a necro or mage to outdamage / outtaunt their pets....they need to do a LOT of casting. Necros have an easier time, but as the pets damage goes up....they still struggle a lot with keeping the agro.

[Videri]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For a necro or mage to outdamage / outtaunt their pets....they need to do a LOT of casting. Necros have an easier time, but as the pets damage goes up....they still struggle a lot with keeping the agro.

...And that leads us to our next class build, the Necbowmancer!

[Izmael]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Till 20 it is. I was mowing through reds in oasis non stop with just a sow and my bow. No other class or twink can do that....not even a fungi tunic warrior or monk would be able to do that.

A lvl 20 bard can pull 100 lvl 25ish reds and win by killing every last one of them a few minutes later. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]