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Old 08-26-2013, 07:57 PM
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I really do not think this is the case.]
Thats what i take from the spell aspect of the epic. Sounds like i need to duel someone with it equipped and see if there is a spell icon on the opposition when it lands.

If its not a agro over time, then its broke. 500 extra agro instantly should be getting me better results.
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Old 08-26-2013, 07:59 PM
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Actually, upon further inspection, it would appear the proc is 100dd +500 hate AND a ac/atk debuff, which lasts for 2 minutes.

http://web.archive.org/web/200208271...&pg=1&sortby=1

Duel someone and see if their stats go down. Simple.
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:10 PM
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Vonhammer told me that the warrior epic was changed around Luclin. It would make a great deal of sense if it was an AC/ATK debuff during our era and then was changed to add raw hate when they fixed the Blade of Carnage.

Luchino, I like you have seen the worn off messages. I just don't think that necessarily implies it is aggro over time. I think a much better explanation for your results with the Feverblade is that its just a superior aggro weapon: it puts out both more melee and proc hate. Still, I won't say that my test ruled it out.
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:12 PM
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That would make sense if it was changed in luclin. Because I found these:

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Old 08-26-2013, 08:14 PM
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I didnt realize it was ac/atk debuff so that removes my argument. You guys are doing some pretty awesome digging.
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:22 PM
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STR:+10/STA:+15/HP:+30/+5 TO ALL SAVES
EFFECT: Rage of Vallon ( Target debuffer spell that reduces HP/AC/ATK by 100/40/11 for about a 2min period )

This version with the 30hp instead of 50hp has no mention of additional agro. Not sure if this is the Luclin version or Kunark version.

Nerfed to lower hp and take away the agro portion of the effect? That doesn't make sense.
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:25 PM
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http://www.castle-grounds.co.uk/eq/epiclink.htm

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The Blade of Stategy Proc is also Fire based, and is 100DD as well reducing a Mobs ATK by 40 and their AC by 11 for 2 minutes.

The Blade of Tactics is a right clickable effect, which increases Dex by 40, ATT by 30, and AC by 12. This also lasts 2 minutes.
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The Warriors are also slightly dissapointed with the primary held 1HS, as it at its current ratio, is not as good as currently available weapons (amiditly from places like VP), and cannot keep up the taunt factor that they require. Also the Blade of Tactics is NOT a right click effect, but a proc, and also most importantly, the buffs that it produces do not allow Cleric buffs to stack.
I think the shittier version is the kunark version (from the archive.org link and above link - with less hp, and what appears to be no hate in the proc)
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:34 PM
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If that was the case, does that mean were dealing with some hybrid sword? With more hp but no agro proc? Because the proc seems terrible when it comes to agro.
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:55 PM
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Sak and I did do tests today.. there definitely was a hate proc it seemed.

This is what I am thinking:

Original warrior epics had 30hp, were debuff/buff (I've found a few sources that claim it should be clicky though broken, then at some point a proc, and then at some point worn effect).

I think at some point they were changed to 50hp and the +500 hate was added to the blade of strategy due to warriors being like wtf bro this shit blows nuts.

Now to find out when..
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Posted this on the bug forums: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...60#post1089960
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