I am not against GMO's.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by stonez138 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

QFT

The idea that massive overpopulation is simply a myth.

Overpopulation was the "OMG WE ARE KILLING THE PLANET" fad of the '70s. All the predictions of doom failed to materialize. Net population is still growing but not at the same rate as it was... heck in the west population is generally decreasing... at the same time as food production continues to increase.

[Zithax]

Whole lotta nope.

[Faerie]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Overpopulation was the "OMG WE ARE KILLING THE PLANET" fad of the '70s. All the predictions of doom failed to materialize. Net population is still growing but not at the same rate as it was... heck in the west population is generally decreasing... at the same time as food production continues to increase.

You mean rate of population growth is decreasing, right?

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by smokemon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The United States wastes more than enough food each year to stop world hunger, the problem isn't about there being enough food, it's about distribution and control of the food. The problem isn't with "Genetic Modification" as a science.

However what they are doing is just randomly jamming in the modified DNA where ever the fuck they want basically rolling the dice and seeing the results on us, human guinea pigs. Could they do amazing things with genetic modification,if pointed in the other direction, of course. Will they do that though? It's highly un-likely.

I mean look at cars for example, we can easily run a fuckin' car powered off hydrogen extracted from water at an extremely low cost. Will they do that? OF COURSE NOT, it doesn't translate into massive piles of plati....errr dollars. The same thing could be said about energy in general, the research and science is there, but what do those at the top do?? They keep us fuckin' strapped to petroleum/coal/nuclear so they can reap trillions of dollars in profit. OR look at what was done with Tesla, he wanted to give free wireless energy to everyone, what happened, he was bankrupted and his research facility burnt and his work stolen so those who had a play in the energy field could supress that knowledge and reap billions off it. The same thing is being done with genetic modification to our food. They are using it to make trillions / control the food supply / keep us down and sick / They are not using it for the good of mankind, like most technological advances as of late. Instead they give us Ipad95. ALL HAIL IPAD95.


It's the monolithic ruthless"Elite" who has the control of where this technology/academics of the technology goes and has for a long time. It does not look good in the least if we continue on this path letting them control the channels of technology and science, healthcare etc.... History keeps repeating itself, time and time again these "Elite" suppress the amazing potential of these technologies and have for YEARS AND YEARS. Again, if placed in the right hands or pushed down the right path all of these things Energy/DNA manipulation/AI/ etc all could propel humanity beyond anyone's wildest imagination.

Qft. This guy gets it.

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You think there is a coincidence that most of the world's food is produced in the USA and Canada? Are GMO's any more revolutionary than, say, crop rotation was when it was introduced?

How can you even compare the two? I'm lost. Crop rotation was a technology invented to produce more and better crops every year. GMO is the injection/restructuring and splicing of a food source in the attempt to bolster it or make it more resistant to pests. GMO technology has been proven in many studies to be unhealthy on many levels (humans,land,livestock, and so on)

[Korisek]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How can you even compare the two? I'm lost. Crop rotation was a technology invented to produce more and better crops every year. GMO is the injection/restructuring and splicing of a food source in the attempt to bolster it or make it more resistant to pests. GMO technology has been proven in many studies to be unhealthy on many levels (humans,land,livestock, and so on)

Crop Rotation was a procedure designed to keep the crops that a community was growing from removing all of the required nutrients from the soil they were being grown on. It came about to promote longevity of tilling fields. The effect on the produce itself was healthier crops, but not more.

Genetic Modification has thus far made for healthier, hardier, and/or more productive crops.

I agree that comparing the two is silly. Neither replaces the other, they are complementary with each other. Comparing crop rotation to hydroponics would be more fitting, as both involve the soil (or lack thereof) rather than the crop itself.

[Reapin]

Originally Posted by smokemon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The United States wastes more than enough food each year to stop world hunger, the problem isn't about there being enough food, it's about distribution and control of the food. The problem isn't with "Genetic Modification" as a science.

However what they are doing is just randomly jamming in the modified DNA where ever the fuck they want basically rolling the dice and seeing the results on us, human guinea pigs. Could they do amazing things with genetic modification,if pointed in the other direction, of course. Will they do that though? It's highly un-likely.

I mean look at cars for example, we can easily run a fuckin' car powered off hydrogen extracted from water at an extremely low cost. Will they do that? OF COURSE NOT, it doesn't translate into massive piles of plati....errr dollars. The same thing could be said about energy in general, the research and science is there, but what do those at the top do?? They keep us fuckin' strapped to petroleum/coal/nuclear so they can reap trillions of dollars in profit. OR look at what was done with Tesla, he wanted to give free wireless energy to everyone, what happened, he was bankrupted and his research facility burnt and his work stolen so those who had a play in the energy field could supress that knowledge and reap billions off it. The same thing is being done with genetic modification to our food. They are using it to make trillions / control the food supply / keep us down and sick / They are not using it for the good of mankind, like most technological advances as of late. Instead they give us Ipad95. ALL HAIL IPAD95.

It's the monolithic ruthless"Elite" who has the control of where this technology/academics of the technology goes and has for a long time. It does not look good in the least if we continue on this path letting them control the channels of technology and science, healthcare etc.... History keeps repeating itself, time and time again these "Elite" suppress the amazing potential of these technologies and have for YEARS AND YEARS. Again, if placed in the right hands or pushed down the right path all of these things Energy/DNA manipulation/AI/ etc all could propel humanity beyond anyone's wildest imagination.

Overpopulation is the problem. The good news is nature always finds a way to balance out.

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http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/28/health...html?hpt=hp_t1

The world needs to pull together its resources to properly tackle the virus, said the World Health Organization chief. The SARS-like virus has killed 23 people. "We understand too little about this virus," she said.

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She is wrong. The best thing we can do is spread this shit around.

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by Korisek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Crop Rotation was a procedure designed to keep the crops that a community was growing from removing all of the required nutrients from the soil they were being grown on. It came about to promote longevity of tilling fields. The effect on the produce itself was healthier crops, but not more.

Genetic Modification has thus far made for healthier, hardier, and/or more productive crops.

I agree that comparing the two is silly. Neither replaces the other, they are complementary with each other. Comparing crop rotation to hydroponics would be more fitting, as both involve the soil (or lack thereof) rather than the crop itself.

So you will take healthier ( which it isn't if it isn't natural in my opinion and filled with pestisides) crops over naturally grown crops without all of the modifications? One thing we have learned from science is, its only as modern as its day and age. There are a ton of things we probably will not know scientifically for years about gmo grown crops.

I think I would rather stick to non gmo crops. I fully understand that yeah, they still get the topical pestisides, but most of that is able to be washed off on certain fruits and vegetables. You can't wash off a crop that is engineered to make its own pesticides to combat insects etc.

[hatelore]

And in essence you basically said the same thing as me, just a little more technical lol. And yes, it would produce more in the overall grand scheme of things if it was a healthier crop. lol

[smokemon]

Originally Posted by Reapin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Overpopulation is the problem. The good news is nature always finds a way to balance out.

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New virus called a global threat

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/28/health...html?hpt=hp_t1

The world needs to pull together its resources to properly tackle the virus, said the World Health Organization chief. The SARS-like virus has killed 23 people. "We understand too little about this virus," she said.

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She is wrong. The best thing we can do is spread this shit around.

False. People with your distorted perception of humanity are the problem. I have an awesome idea for you though, check it. You can take your own advice and thinking and apply it inwardly. That would help solve a lot of the worlds problems. THANK YOU COME AGAIN. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]