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[Andos]

Originally Posted by Darkatar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's like being offered a discount hotel room, but the bed/sheets/pillowcase/shampoo/water/ice/curtains/doorlock/do not disturb sign "minor advantages" all cost extra. Sure, It's a hotel room, it's got a roof, you can sleep in it, but you're not getting "the whole thing" unless you shell out to the moneygrab.

Bad analogy, if anything the cash shop is like a mini bar. Nothing you can't easily live without, you can save some time by grabbing something from it, or you can walk down the street and grab something for a little more effort/time. Oh no, people are getting XP pots and stupid graphics, my game is ruined, oh wait it won't effect my game because I'll be able to play instanced content with my guild without having to deal with unemployed neckbeards waiting to race for a 2 year old mob to spawn for 12 hours.

[Yasi]

I am a huge fan of RMT as it allows me to get some stuff with limited time but extra funds to spare. I always wished p99 would allow for RMT and I think in the end, not being able to buy some pp killed it for me at some point. But my personal believes are a different story here :P

I wouldn't really call daybreak's model p2w (I am not used to the term p2a - what is p2a?) but I guess that also depends on where you get your fun out of a MMORPG. If you want to be the fastest leveler, then it is p2w. But if you don't care if you're the first to reach max level, it doesn't rly matter. You can't buy anything that makes your character stronger than other characters - which would be p2w for me and ruin my experience.

[Darkatar]

Originally Posted by Andos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bad analogy, if anything the cash shop is like a mini bar. Nothing you can't easily live without, you can save some time by grabbing something from it, or you can walk down the street and grab something for a little more effort/time.

I was going to originally use the minbar as an example, but it gets dumb because like you said, You can just walk down the street to avoid the stupid pricing. The problem is with a MMO is the ENTIRE POINT OF THE GAME is to spend effort/time, not money. If you want to throw money at a game, go to a casino. At least you get liquor.

Originally Posted by Yasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not being able to buy some pp killed it for me at some point.

I wouldn't really call daybreak's model p2w (I am not used to the term p2a - what is p2a?) but I guess that also depends on where you get your fun out of a MMORPG. If you want to be the fastest leveler, then it is p2w. But if you don't care if you're the first to reach max level, it doesn't rly matter. You can't buy anything that makes your character stronger than other characters - which would be p2w for me and ruin my experience.

P2A pay to advance/advantage.

You can use krono to play.
You can buy krono with cash.
You can trade krono with players.
So, the economy is based heavily around krono, considering, yknow, krono enables play (or your own cash)

So...You can buy krono, and trade it for anything else that is normally trade-able (and probably loot rights, etc)

Now, The next argument will be "But you can only use it for subscriptionszzz111!!!!

Yeah, but you can be 100% fucking sure that its opened up a "black market" for krono. You can probably find krono cheaper than what you can find it from the server store from illegitimate sources.

"But I don't use those sources so it doesn't matter to me!"
"Those people get banned!"

Yeah, and?
The market revolves around krono, the server prints krono, sells them to players. Some use them, some trade them, some farm like old *insert nationality here* gold farmers on WOW. Even if they DO get banned, the market is still fucked, server still gets their cash, and prints new krono. It's actually beneficial for the gold farm mentality to the server owners, because the small percentage of people that they catch and ban, the server is essentially refunding themselves the krono they inflated the market with, without having to give back the money that was originally paid for the krono.

Good for the bottom line, terrible game.

[Xzavie]

Paying for EQ is classic AF.

[Rang]

The market revolves around krono, the server prints krono, sells them to players. Some use them, some trade them, some farm like old *insert nationality here* gold farmers on WOW. Even if they DO get banned, the market is still fucked, server still gets their cash, and prints new krono. It's actually beneficial for the gold farm mentality to the server owners, because the small percentage of people that they catch and ban, the server is essentially refunding themselves the krono they inflated the market with, without having to give back the money that was originally paid for the krono

You make some valid points but raid loot is still non trade and requires cooperation of a guild to obtain so yes Krono campers / farmers are a pain but only for tradeable items. I suppose loot rights could be sold but corpse timers still restrict that to a certain degree. And once the later xpacs come out all the BiS stuff is no trade that requires a guild raid.

[Yasi]

Krono allows a deal: people with time to play/farm, but unwilling to pay money for the game get playtime, people without time to play/farm, but willing to pay money for the game, get some retwards. It's win-win. Actually win-win-win if you Count in Daybreak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Relbaic]

Originally Posted by Xzavie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Paying for EQ is classic AF.

[burkemi5]

30 dollars at McDonald's? Are you shitting me? You are a complete retard if you spend more than 5 dollars at McDonalds. Two McChickens (~700 calories) and one small fry (230 calories) is by far more than any one person should eat from McD's at once. And it only costs you three dollars. Spending 30 bucks at McD's would yield you literally 10,000 calories worth of food. Azzar confirmed obese.

[Pokesan]

ITT weak skinnyfats insult a big dawg gettin his macros

[Spyder73]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who the fuck goes to McDonalds on a budget? You realize how expensive McDonalds is compared to your ramen?

You can blow 30 dollars at McDonalds easily just to eat a full meal

AzzarTheFatSh!t