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Old 12-04-2014, 12:33 AM
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Interesting pages from France and Japan.

http://jahislove.pagesperso-orange.fr/WW%20dragons.htm

http://giline.versus.jp/shiden/monster/ww02.htm

Not classic source, but identifies sont's casts, but doesn't include procs or char.
http://hungos2cp.orgfree.com/huntww.html
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Interesting pages from France and Japan.

http://jahislove.pagesperso-orange.fr/WW%20dragons.htm

http://giline.versus.jp/shiden/monster/ww02.htm

Not classic source, but identifies sont's casts, but doesn't include procs or char.
http://hungos2cp.orgfree.com/huntww.html
Some good info on those links~ Interesting page here from velious era listing all the WW dragons and more confirmation on sontalak having a proc and a AE in the Velious era.

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Sontalak
Approximate Level = 70
AE - Unknown
He has a 700 damage fire based proc and does AE fear. His dispel is proximity based, if you are very close to him you get 4 buffs at a time dispelled. If you are at max melee range you only get one buff dispelled at a time. His fear is fairly easy to resist, best to go all out on fire resist and get magic resist over 120 or so. His fire AE is no stronger than other WW dragons AE, about 400 damage, but can be partially resisted easily.
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First thing to remember, this info is from when Velious was the newest expansion. Some things may have changed a bit. I haven't led a dragon raid in WW for a long time, at least 2 years. But most should be the same.

Amcilla
Approximate Level = 55
AE - Cold and Dispel
Tips - Does not gate, found roaming near Pantrilla spawn and also through the Temple of Veeshan canyon. Possibly a PH for Rak Sapara or Gangel, as he was found on the same roaming path as them. Can drop dragon leg breeches.

Atpaev
Approximate Level = 53
AE - Cold and Dispel
Atpaev is a static found to the northwest of the Temple of Veeshan canyon. It does not gate, and is pretty easy. Atpaev can drop dragonskin masks.

Ayillish
Approximate Level = 56
AE - Cold and Dispel
Static spawn next to Derasinal in the Temple of Veeshan canyon. Does not gate. Fairly strong AE effect. One of the easiest dragons that drops a +6 talisman. Ayillish can also drop dragonhide bracers, great for shamans and clerics.

Bratavar
Approximate Level = 54
AE - Cold and Dispel.
Is a static spawn to the southwest of Glati�s spawn. Does not gate. He has dropped Cannibalize IV and a Matchless Dragonwing Mantle.

Bufa
Approximate Level = 54
AE - Cold and Dispel
Tips - Does not gate, is a roamer to the south of Glati�s spawn. Max hit is 320, which makes Bufa one of the hardest hitting dragons in zone, even higher than Harla Dar. However, he is easy to slow, and his AE isn�t very strong, so he is pretty easy.

Cargalia
Approximate Level = 54
AE = Cold and Dispel
One of the most annoying dragons in zone. Cargalia roams all over the place including near the zone to Sirens Grotto. Same roaming path as Von it seems. Cargalia is annoying because of her flux which can 10k you if you don�t have levitate up. Even with lev her flux still does 1200 damage. To top it off, Cargalia gates when low, and drops crappy loot. Best to avoid this one.

Crial
Approximate Level = 56
AE - Fire and Dispel
Does not gate, was found roaming near Jen Sapara�s spawn. Pretty rare spawn, only seen him up twice. Drops dragonhorn bracers.

Del Sapara
Approximate Level = 60
AE = Cold
Does not gate or CH. Has no mana to sieve. Procs chaotic weightlessness like all the other Sapara�s. Was found roaming on the southeast side of the Temple of Veeshan canyon.

Derasinal
Approximate Level = 58
AE - Fire, Disease and Dispel
His disease is easy to resist, never landed it on me, so I don�t know what it does. His fire AE is pretty strong, and he has a lot of hp. He is a cleric, so he gates and CH�s. Best to fight him on his bind spot, which is to the east of the Temple of Veeshan in the canyon. He drops a +6 talisman. Watch out for Rak Sapara roaming near Derasinal, though. He drops a +6 talisman and dragonhorn bracers.

Draazak
Approximate Level = 58
AE - Fire and Dispel
This one is a static between Sontalak and Derasinal in the Temple of Veeshan canyon. Draazak is a cleric, so he CH�s and likely gates, but we fought on his spawn so he didn�t. He has quite a few HP, took us a bit to kill, but he�s not very hard. A bit tougher than Derasinal I think. Has dropped the first part of Ven Pekir�s Tome.

Entariz
Approximate Level = 56-57
AE - Cold and Dispel
Entariz is a static spawn between Sontalak and Ionat in the Temple of Veeshan canyon. His AE is extremely hard to resist. I had near 200 cold resist, and he still did 400 damage on both of his AE�s, which was his max damage. Can drop dragonskin masks.


Esorpa of the Ring
Approximate Level = 55
AE - Silence
We didn�t know this one was going to silence us, but we still beat it on the first try. First time we fought Esorpa, it was very easy. Second time, it kept gating on us and wiped us. We now know her bind though. It�s right in front of the wyvern cave on the map at loc 2500, -3000. Esorpa is the only dragon in zone on RingofScale faction.

Gafala
Approximate Level = 53
AE - Fire and Dispel
Gafala is a static spawn on the northwest coast, does not gate. Nothing special about Gafala, one of the weaker dragons in the zone. Can drop dragonskin masks.

Gangel
Approximate Level = 55
AE - Fire and Dispel
Found roaming through the Temple of Veeshan canyon near Ayillish spawn. He had SoW, though I�m not sure if he cast it on himself, or maybe Glati buffed him. Anyway, he hauled ass up the cliff when he got low. Not a very hard dragon, especially for where he was found.

Glati
Approximate Level = 54
AE - Fire and Dispel
He gates to the northeast corner of the zone, best to fight him on or near his spawn. He�s also a shaman and runs at SoW speed. His bind spot is just to the east of Vraptin�s spawn. Max hit - 217. Harla Dar roams very near to Glati and Vraptin. His bind spot is normally where we first setup camp for Western Wastes raids.

Harla Dar
Approximate Level = 63
AE - Fear
Harla is an enchanter, and casts single target mesmerize, slow and charm, and also does grav flux. Harla gates, bind spot is unknown for now. Roams very near to Vraptin and Glati spots, and has also been seen to the southeast of the Temple of Veeshan canyon. Can drop dragonhide belts. Pretty much requires Tash, Malo, and Occlusion before you can slow.

Hechaeva
Approximate Level = 53
AE - Cold and Dispel
Wuss dragon, 2 strong groups can take this one easy. It�s a static spawn along the northwest coast and does not gate. Can drop dragonspine vambraces.

Honvar
Approximate Level = 54
AE = Cold and Dispel
Found roaming through the Temple of Veeshan canyon. Does not cast at all. Looks like Severilous/Wuoshi.

Icehackle
Approximate Level = 61
AE - None
Found roaming to the southwest of Glati�s spot. Was able to slow it with just Malo and Tash, no Occlusion. Doesn�t hit very hard for his level. Dropped nothing, but I think it can drop a crappy monk only pelt, which is worn as a cloak.

Ionat
Approximate Level = 57
AE - Silence and Dispel
This one is a pain because of silence. He is a static spawn in between Karkona and Sontalak. Not sure if he gates, we�ve never fought him, yet.

Jen Sapara
Approximate Level = 61
AE - None
Jen is a cleric and does CH. She procs a 1200ish damage flux, but doesn�t do it nearly as often as Rak Sapara or Cargalia. She most likely gates, but we fought her on her spawn, so she did not gate on us. She is a stationary spawn to the west of Glati�s spawn. Can drop exquisite velium weapons and dragonskull helms.

Kar Sapara
Approximate Level = 60
AE - Cold and Dispel
Pretty similar to Karkona, but a bit tougher. His AE is pretty strong, but I don�t think he gates. Max hit - 235. Drops 6 to all stats/saves talisman. Roams to the north of the Temple of Veeshan canyon. Drops the second part of Ven Pekir�s Tome.


Karkona
Approximate Level = 57
AE - Cold and Dispel
Does gate, is a static spawn in the Temple of Veeshan canyon, to the west of Ionat. Fighting on his spawn will not aggro Ionat. Drops a +6 talisman and dragonwing mantles.

Klandicar
Approximate Level = 65
AE = Cold, Fear and Dispel
Recently buffed, Klandicar now has Dozekars AE and a lot more HP. His cold AE is unresistable, just like Dozekar, so don�t bother buffing Cold for it. He is rumored to be slowable, but you may need to use a bard with orb of tishan and journeymans walking stick stacking bug to do it. Have your bards use a drum when playing Occlusion as well, not epic.

Linbrak
Approximate Level = 53
AE = Fire and Dispel
Found roaming south of Temple of Veeshan canyon. Does not gate. Have never fought this dragon, but my hunch is he is nothing special.

Makala
Approximate Level = 51
AE = Unknown
Didn�t get a chance to kill this one, but he cons blue to a level 52, so we figure he probably doesn�t have great loot. He drops a +4 talisman and dragonhorn bracers.

Mav Sapara
Approximate Level = 60
AE = Unknown
I have no information on this dragon, but I can guess that it fluxes and probably does not gate. Any info would be appreciated.

Mazi
Approximate Level = 54
AE - Fire and Dispel
Does not gate, is a static spawn to the southwest of Glati�s bind spot. Pretty easy dragon. Can drop dragonleg breeches.

Mraaka
Approximate Level = 65
AE - Fire
Is a roamer that doesn�t gate. Big mean ass wurm. Usually requires Malo, Tash and Occlusion to all be in before you can slow him. Max hit is 280. Once he is slowed, he is quite easy. He is hard to pull, because he runs at near Jboots speed. He is said to drop exquisite velium weapons, but we have yet to see it. Mraaka also see�s invis.

Myga
Approximate Level = 55
AE = Unknown
Myga is a rare spawn dragon. It drops an item needed for the dragonsbane wizard spell quest. There are lots of rumors on how to spawn it, but the consensus is that Myga is a roamer, so killing non roamer dragons will not spawn Myga. Some people have mentioned the Myga PH roams through the Temple of Veeshan canyon. This rules out most if not all of the Sapara�s as a PH. Possible PH�s may include: Amcilla, Nintal, Yal, Bufa Makala, Neordla, and likely a few others.

Neordla
Approximate Level = 57
AE - Fire and Dispel
Does not gate, was found roaming to the south of Glati�s bind spot. He is fairly tough, but no problem for 3 well equipped groups. Can drop dragonspine vambraces.

Nintal
Approximate Level = 57
AE = Cold and Dispel
Nintal was found roaming across the Temple of Veeshan canyon in front of Karkona spawn. He aggrod us at a really bad time and hosed us. Two level 60 shamans were unable to slow him after Malo and Occlusion were in, not sure if Tash was in. We got him down very low, and he did not try to gate or heal. Can drop dragonwing mantles.

Nyga
Approximate Level = 55
AE = Cold and Dispel
I have no information on this dragon, other than that it is extremely rare. It was spotted before the dragonsbane quest was put in, according to some. His AE graphic looks like fire, but the message you get from his AE is Your body freezes as the frost hits you.


Onava
Approximate Level = 55
AE - Unknown
We�ve never fought this dragon, yet. It seems to only be up when we are just passing through WW, not fighting there. He has been seen roaming to the northeast of the Temple of Veeshan canyon.

Pantrilla
Approximate Level = 54
AE - Cold and Dispel
Does not gate, is a static spawn to the southwest of Glati�s bind spot. Pantrilla is a pretty easy dragon, 2 groups can handle this one pretty easily. Can drop dragonwing cloaks.

Quoza
Approximate Level = 53
AE = Unknown
Found roaming the northwest coast nest area. Only seen and killed it once, was an easy one.

Rak Sapara
Approximate Level = 58-59
AE - Unknown. This is a pic of Von�s AE
This guy has caused us a great deal of pain. He procs a flux spell that does 1236 damage and is quite hard to resist. Having levitiate or DMF on only prevents the falling damage on the flux, it does not prevent the DD portion of it. He fluxes VERY often. I was personally fluxed a second time before I landed. Others have been fluxed 3 times in a row before landing.

Sontalak
Approximate Level = 70
AE - Unknown
He has a 700 damage fire based proc and does AE fear. His dispel is proximity based, if you are very close to him you get 4 buffs at a time dispelled. If you are at max melee range you only get one buff dispelled at a time. His fear is fairly easy to resist, best to go all out on fire resist and get magic resist over 120 or so. His fire AE is no stronger than other WW dragons AE, about 400 damage, but can be partially resisted easily.

Sivar
Approximate Level = 54
AE = Fire and Dispel
Found roaming southeast of Temple of Veeshan canyon. Possibly same roaming path as Cargalia/Von. Fairly rare spawn roamer, and not very hard. Does not enrage, and does not cast at all.

Strong Horn
Approximate Level = 63
AE = Unknown
Strong Horn runs at near spirit of wolf speed and procs a nasty knockback spell very often. He is probably the most fun mob in zone to fight. I recommend you fight him in the temple of veeshan canyon, with your backs to a wall, or you will be doing a lot of running around. Can be slowed with just Malo and Tash. He drops StrongHorn�s Horn, an 18/30 1h blunt that procs knockback.

Tantor
Approximate Level = 63
AE - None
Tantor is quite a mean mammoth. He hits for around 290 max, and is extremely difficult/impossible to slow. I tried several slows on him after Tash, Malo and Occlusion were all in, no luck. Not sure if he can be snared. Can drop Tantor�s Tusk, a 50/60 2h piercer.

Travala
Approximate Level = 63
AE - None
Roams near the zone to Siren�s Grotto, and sometimes farther out. Drops a huge wing for the BFG9000 gun quest. Was able to slow it with all 3 MR debuffs in. Has a lot of hp, expect a long fight.

Tsiraka
Approximate Level = 63+
AE = None
Roaming wyvern found to the south of Glati�s bind spot. Was able to slow him with Malo, Tash and Occlusion in on first try. Was very easy after that. Dropped a ranger only 15/26 claw (piercing skill) that is no drop. Pretty nice weapon for a ranger without epics.

Uiliak
Approximate Level = 53-54
AE = Fire and Dispel
Does not gate, flux or heal. Was found roaming around the nesting area. Not a hard dragon. Has also been seen on the south side of Temple of Veeshan canyon.
Vitaela
Approximate Level = 53
AE - Cold and Dispel
Is a static to the northwest of the Temple of Veeshan canyon. Does not gate. 2 groups can handle this one easily. Vitaela can drop dragonhorn boots.

Von
Approximate Level = 57
AE - Cold and Dispel
Von big asshole. Von gates and CH�s. He didn�t get a gate off, so we don�t know where his bind is. Take at least 3 groups for Von, just to prevent him gating/CHing. Other than casting, he is not a hard dragon. Can drop dragonspine vambraces.

Vraptin
Approximate Level = 54
AE - Cold and Dispel
Vraptin is a static spawn on the northeast coast. Does not gate. He is very near Glati�s bind spot. Harla Dar roams near Vraptin�s spawn, so watch out for her. Vraptin is one of the few dragons in zone that see�s invis. Can drop dragonhide masks.

Yal
Approximate Level = 55
AE - Fire and Dispel
Found roaming across the Temple of Veeshan canyon in front of Ionat/Karkona spawns. Yal isn�t very tough for the area he is in. 2 strong groups, can take him out I think.

Yeldema
Approximate Level = 53
AE - None
Imagine Nagafen with no AE and less hp and you have Yeldema, king of the wussies. Unfortunately, he usually has no loot.

Zil Sapara
Approximate Level = 60
AE = Unknown
Possibly the rarest of the Sapara�s, I�ve never seen it, yet. It likely fluxes like most of the other Sapara�s. Possibly drops exquisite velium weapons, and likely a +6 Talisman.
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Klandicar
Approximate Level = 65
AE = Cold, Fear and Dispel
Recently buffed, Klandicar now has Dozekars AE and a lot more HP.
Oh boy. Klandicar is gonna be Faydedar status if that gets changed.
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Oh boy. Klandicar is gonna be Faydedar status if that gets changed.
Left out the best part of the Klandicar entry:

Klandicar
Approximate Level = 65
AE = Cold, Fear and Dispel
Recently buffed, Klandicar now has Dozekars AE and a lot more HP. His cold AE is unresistable, just like Dozekar, so don�t bother buffing Cold for it. He is rumored to be slowable, but you may need to use a bard with orb of tishan and journeymans walking stick stacking bug to do it. Have your bards use a drum when playing Occlusion as well, not epic.
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Haynar knows about bard stacking, its just the code bitch mother of all code bitches apparently
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Old 12-09-2014, 12:53 PM
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Sontalak
Approximate Level = 70
AE - Unknown
He has a 700 damage fire based proc and does AE fear. His dispel is proximity based, if you are very close to him you get 4 buffs at a time dispelled. If you are at max melee range you only get one buff dispelled at a time. His fear is fairly easy to resist, best to go all out on fire resist and get magic resist over 120 or so. His fire AE is no stronger than other WW dragons AE, about 400 damage, but can be partially resisted easily.

From our testing, with majority over 200mr and a lot at max 255mr, his fear landed a lot more than what this sounds like.
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Biggest issue with Sontalak was keeping the MT alive and keeping the clerics from gaining to much aggro from spam heals. Some more info below on Sontalak~

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He also has a proc on whoever he is agroed on. Don't discount
it, it's a lot of damage.

Don't use CH. There is a line of Dragons, all from Velious, who
have what I consider to be extreme healing agro. Kland, Zland,
Sont, Harla Dar (doesn't really matter because she doesn't take
much healing) and a couple others.
Somtime in 2002 Sontalak was nerfed and should be procing a 700dd in classic Velious,

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Just re-read that and saw how unhelpful it was. In answer to your actual question, I understand that the fight has been revamped several times. When we fought him: not sure how hard he hit, flurried, procced an additional 700DD, AE 650DD and dispell. Unslowable and estimated to have perhaps 100k hp. Overall: badass - by far the toughest ST key mob.
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What makes Sontalak hard is that he one of his AEs (the 4 dispell/cure + nuke) is a targetted proc and he procs it A LOT. You have to kill him super fast, because you really can not keep up with it
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Biggest issue with Sontalak was keeping the MT alive and keeping the clerics from gaining to much aggro from spam heals. Some more info below on Sontalak~



Somtime in 2002 Sontalak was nerfed and should be procing a 700dd in classic Velious,
Middle quote is how I remember him, he was a major PITA. there is a reason he was usually the last ST key boss killed and many guilds simply harmonied and ignored him for a long time.
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Yeah here's a question I got.. why is it harmony worked so easily on high MR npcs?

Does it ignore magic resist and just do its own /random check?
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Old 12-14-2014, 12:38 AM
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Harmony is unresistable.

Also, that list of WW dragons, while neat, has some inaccuracies I can disprove via other sources, namely the dragon levels are off. There's categories of dragons of sorts that have set level ranges by the category, ie some of the dragons above showing as 55 are actually in the 51-54 category and are lvl 52, 53, 54 etc. Other than that not too bad.
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