Dark elf mages and COTH

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think maybe he didn’t know about the wall-eyeball thing.

no i mean as the spell was originally designed without the wall drop

[7thGate]

Originally, you would have needed to get the mage in a group for CotHing purposes. In most cases, you could send a Rogue over to do the invite and create an anchor, so it wouldn't really change all that much in most cases. It would put a damper on CotHing up to Triplets though.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by 7thGate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally, you would have needed to get the mage in a group for CotHing purposes. In most cases, you could send a Rogue over to do the invite and create an anchor, so it wouldn't really change all that much in most cases. It would put a damper on CotHing up to Triplets though.

It would be game changing in the group scene. You could get more rogue bots but that takes time and you’d also need at least 3 people to do it in order to keep the group in tact.

[Toxigen]

ah right, forgot about anchors

been a while

[fortior]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no i mean as the spell was originally designed without the wall drop

you can in theory use it to break aggro, some people farm juggs that way without a monk to pull

[7thGate]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you can in theory use it to break aggro, some people farm juggs that way without a monk to pull

True, Rogue+Mage is actually a pretty good pull team contribution. Have 340 range to start pulls, and can start a pull from any location safely. Can also just run through groups safely during a trainout unless the stuff you're training has a long enough ranged cast to break hide+sneak.

[enjchanter]

60 epic mage LF juggs

[Videri]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no i mean as the spell was originally designed without the wall drop

Indeed. It seems the eyeball-wall-drop mechanic, though probably unintended, completes Call of the Hero as a tool, and adds a unique and vital ability to the magician. Also, Eye of Zomm is 99% useless except for this application. And lucky for us, the magician can cast both spells natively.

Like, it might all be accident and coincidence, but it’s great game design. Some “bugs” are good for the game and best left in. Just like FD pulling, as another poster mentioned above.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

60 epic mage LF juggs

call of the Poop Mountain Hero

[fortior]

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Indeed. It seems the eyeball-wall-drop mechanic, though probably unintended, completes Call of the Hero as a tool, and adds a unique and vital ability to the magician. Also, Eye of Zomm is 99% useless except for this application. And lucky for us, the magician can cast both spells natively.

Like, it might all be accident and coincidence, but it’s great game design. Some “bugs” are good for the game and best left in. Just like FD pulling, as another poster mentioned above.

This is why 'useless' or 'flavor' spells/abilities are cool. As a game dev you are running on deadlines and have limited means to test/future proof interactions, so you can't explore the whole game design space by just making things that work, and only work, as intended