You don't "own" a camp because you just started clearing.

[sammoHung]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know this thread just got necroed but I didn't notice this post before and this is correct.

RNG guarantees you cannot have every single mob in a camp down immediately upon spawn 100% of the time if it's even remotely a challenging camp. This would be a totally ridiculous standard to require of people and a nightmare for gms to enforce.

I think a sensible rule is: If a camp contains say 10 mobs, you have to clear them and be able to kill the first respawn within a couple minutes of it spawning. If you can't maintain that rough schedule and somebody more capable wants the camp, you should move on.

But rabid hyper focusing on whether somebody is perfectly min\maxing a camp so you can slip in and snipe it when they fumble for two seconds is retarded.

Agreed with this. The "spirit" of the law states this. Hey, this group is breaking in, and/or medding between kills at a camp? I'll move along. However, I've been ruled against via the "letter" of the law. GM told me because my group hadn't broken into the camp successfully yet (Despite clearing 1/2 the spawns in the camp, pulling them right outside), that the group of <Guild Name Redacted> including their guildleader "Redacted" was "legally" allowed to leapfrog us, and set up in the camp we were actively trying to break into. Because we did not "Establish and maintain a clear presence"

Of course I wish people would play nice. But this was, after all <Guild Name Redacted> and their guild leader, "Redacted" is known for being a coward that caps out of BoTB when he's about to lose.

[sammoHung]

This also goes the other way. I'm not quite in a name and shame mood today, but this is from this morning. Log into Sol B at Efreeti. Nobody here, nice. Full pops, nice. Need some buffer exp. AFK a min to use bio. Come back, kill the hallway roamer.

[Mon Nov 27 09:20:25 2023] You have slain imp protector!
[Mon Nov 27 09:20:25 2023] You gain experience!!

AFK a few, get some coffee. Still nobody here? Nice. Start clearing the camp.

[Mon Nov 27 09:27:47 2023] You have slain imp protector!
[Mon Nov 27 09:27:47 2023] You gain experience!!

[Mon Nov 27 09:31:05 2023] You have slain imp protector!
[Mon Nov 27 09:31:05 2023] You gain experience!!

[Mon Nov 27 09:33:34 2023] You have slain imp protector!
[Mon Nov 27 09:33:34 2023] You gain experience!!

[Mon Nov 27 09:35:13 2023] You have slain imp protector!
[Mon Nov 27 09:35:13 2023] You gain experience!!

Sit to regen back to full. Ok cool camp is clear, nice gaps between spawns. Oh, wait, who's this?

[Mon Nov 27 09:40:11 2023] Redacted says, 'we were here killing the efreeti stuff before you popped on'
[Mon Nov 27 09:41:13 2023] Redacted says, 'you logged in and started killing without camp checking'
[Mon Nov 27 09:41:15 2023] You say, 'you werent here'
[Mon Nov 27 09:41:18 2023] Redacted_2 says, 'cycling ropund from lava to here, go all on timers'
[Mon Nov 27 09:41:20 2023] You say, 'you cant call a camp if youre not here'
[Mon Nov 27 09:41:32 2023] You say, 'it took me about 10 mins to clear this betweek afks'

Repop happened. From 22 mins ago. First one I killed.

[Mon Nov 27 09:42:27 2023] Auto attack on.
[Mon Nov 27 09:42:27 2023] Imp protector tries to crush YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Mon Nov 27 09:42:30 2023] You say, 'look at that respawn'
[Mon Nov 27 09:42:31 2023] You crush imp protector for 270 points of damage.
[Mon Nov 27 09:42:34 2023] You say, 'the first one i cleared'
[Mon Nov 27 09:42:36 2023] You crush imp protector for 212 points of damage.
[Mon Nov 27 09:42:36 2023] You say, '20 mins ago'


Because some fools will try to claim a camp, when they haven't been there for at least 22 minutes (time to respawn for full camp when I logged in), and don't return for at least 20 minutes after that (respawn after I started clearing) for a total of 40+ minutes and still try to claim a camp, because they had killed the mobs at some point during the day.

[sammoHung]

Since you can't edit in RnF. Regarding the exchange above:

Shitbirds like this will claim they were "right on top of respawns" because they "had timers going." In a straight up lie (a bad one at that)

Meanwhile, it had been at least 40 minutes (generously, although if they were there it was probably well before that) since they'd killed anything in the camp. But they are shitbirds, so they try to "bully" someone out of a camp using camp claim.

So the pendulum swings both ways. It's shitty, but that's the game we play [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I would not want to be a CSR on this game. Or any game for that matter.

[Swish]

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[Kohedron]

Sorry your camp got stolen, if you played on red it wouldn’t be an issue.

But nah instead of solutions you wanna pout on the internet

[Ooloo]

Red just adds another avenue by which other players can fuck with you. Instead of just having your camp stolen, you also get the pleasure of being killed while it's stolen.

PVP is for ultima online, as holy god almighty intended.

[skulldudes]

lol even uo pvp is garbage now. lemme just get 3 other guys, hold an ebolt and "target nearest enemy" as soon as i see an orange name. leet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Kohedron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry your camp got stolen, if you played on red it wouldn’t be an issue.

But nah instead of solutions you wanna pout on the internet

"Look at me I'm such a big tough guy playing a PVP role playing game"

[Naethyn]

Take down names. Get to the end game and take pleasure in waiting for someone on the blacklist to show up.

[Smoofers]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Take down names. Get to the end game and take pleasure in waiting for someone on the blacklist to show up.

This is one of the most bitch made things I've heard on these forums.