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View Poll Results: What class could kill Vindi with the least amount of players.
Enchanter 55 31.25%
Magician 31 17.61%
Necro 7 3.98%
Wizard 17 9.66%
Cleric 7 3.98%
Druid 7 3.98%
Shaman 6 3.41%
Bard 3 1.70%
Monk 13 7.39%
Ranger 8 4.55%
Rogue 4 2.27%
Paladin 4 2.27%
Shadow Knight 2 1.14%
Warrior 12 6.82%
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Old 04-04-2020, 10:08 AM
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Giantbane wizards.
I'm guessing they would only be able to do a single cast. Wouldn't he summon after each cast?
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Old 04-04-2020, 10:16 AM
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Probably mages. They can SUMMON new tanks out of thin air, as opposed to enchanters who rely on having existing mobs to charm. Charm will also break, sometimes killing their master. Then you have a loose pet running around popping other enchanters who can't mez or charm him.

Mage pet won't ever break.

Vindi will be able to kill one mage pet in one round of melee, + ripostes and rampage, we can probably give an approximate value of 1.5 pets dying every round of Vindi melee, which happens about once every second.

What number of mages can regen enough mana to produce at least 1.5 pets per second? No idea but I'm sure someone on lockdown has the time to run the figures.

Then you'll have the question of raid's DPS beating Vindi's regen.
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Old 04-04-2020, 11:31 AM
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200 mana per pet
~3.5 mana per second @ 60 sitting
~4.0 mana per second w/ 60 epic bard
~2.0 mana per second w/ C2
~1.0 mana per second w/ Potg
~10.5 mana per mage fully buffed w/ epic bard

4 groups of (5mage + 1bard) would be net mana positive if only one pet died per round. Assuming a 1.5 pet per round death you’d probably still be okay if mages have a large mana pool.

I would love to be apart of an attempt like this once green gets to velious lol. Tbh this setup with 36 people would easily be able to kill anything that doesn’t fear.
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Old 04-04-2020, 12:19 PM
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Cannot use bard (1 class raid) but can use mod rods and phantom amor HP regen.
I assume self buffed only.

At 4 mana / second with 75 mages we produce 1.5 pets per second. That should mean we have at least 60 pets dpsing vindi at any given time.

I'll assume a conservative dps of 30 for 60 water pet (vindi will flip between targets constantly, lots of pet swings will be parried etc).

30 x 60 = 900 dps to vindi from 75 lvl 60 mages.

No idea if this could beat his regen. If it does, gg. Just have to make sure everyone has enough malachite.

Not sure Burnt Wood Staff would be an advantage there.
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Old 04-04-2020, 12:36 PM
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I'm guessing they would only be able to do a single cast. Wouldn't he summon after each cast?
There's a cooldown on summon, giantbane is unresistable so it can be cast from range. Figure 30 wizards can do it if, conservatively, 5 die per volley.

30 + 25 + 20 + 15 + 10 + 5 = 105 casts, which is 210,000 damage

I say conservatively because in practice he doesn't actually one shot each wizard. With decent gear + epic skin, I don't think that many would die per volley. Rampage is pretty much a non-factor.
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Old 04-04-2020, 02:32 PM
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Old 04-04-2020, 04:33 PM
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Giants are immune to much of the Enchanters CC playbook
Enchanters would be flattened like a pancake, they don't stand a chance.
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Told this to Rogean, Nilbog & Menden.
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Old 04-04-2020, 05:48 PM
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40 mages, no problem.
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Old 04-04-2020, 06:36 PM
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Whirlwind = Weaponshield but monks have no flame lick so they cant aggro transfer in a meaningful manner to make a "Chain" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Plus monks goinng to be dying to ramp pretty damn fast. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Monks using mallets and FD were able to use a tank order with a reasonable degree of reliability to transfer Agro when we used to kill OoA in early kunark with monk rotations.
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Old 04-04-2020, 06:37 PM
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Also my vote for class would be Druids.
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