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Old 03-22-2016, 02:13 PM
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It's not that I don't believe you, I just need more to substantiate a change. I'm 99% done with the VSR respawn changes, and want to get this in at the same time.
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There is a good chance I will be getting this staff first. Due to its common drop rate, and the fact that VS is rather easy (I think he's easier than the golem, or rather all that's involved in dropping the golem), I may get this well before being done with my epic. In which case, I will definitely be weilding it...

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What are you talking about?!

its 10/30 and this one is a much more common drop than the blue crystal staff of Phinny.

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I am told and have found that the staff drops 1 in 4 kills now. I was keeping track of the kills about 5 months ago and many have said they upped the drop rate on a patch so I checked and it is indeed higher now. Now it's not even that uncommon for the staff to drop multiple times in a row but it would still be rare. All I can say is it's about time, for something as over camped as Phinny sometimes is by the **** insomniac uber guilds it's nice to give the common wizard a greater chance to get it on 1 kill.

Maybe they decreased the drop rate after the initial near 100% drop ? That would explain magelo, not sure, I just know it was a near guaranteed drop for my time period of playing after the epic revamps went in and VS was 3 days.



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No this is not the hardest part, the hardest part is phinny who drops his staff about once every 15 kills, as oposed to VS who drops it fairly regularly. Least thats been my expierence. My 2cp



was what I found on Zam - Phinny by far the mob most wizard complained about on all the commentary
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Old 03-22-2016, 02:36 PM
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Nilbog the VS on Magelo doesn't have any way to differentiate the Venril Sathir and the Venril Sathir (Fake - Druid Epic) when entering into their system.

For example that VS shows 120 Pulsing Green Stones out of 328 loot entries. I'm fairly certain it doesn't properly account for double drops as well.

So in actuality, you have either 208 VS Kills (if it doesn't account for double drops), or 268 VS kills (by subtracting the 60 double stone fake VS logs).

122 Gnarled Staves
122/208 = 58.6%
122/268 = 45.5%

That being said, again Magelo isn't the most reliable system.

Here are my logs from Al'Kabor:
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[Mon Dec 03 20:12:31 2012] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Mon Dec 03 20:12:43 2012] --You have looted a Diamond Encrusted Staff.--
[Mon Dec 03 20:12:44 2012] --You have looted a Elder Spiritist's Greaves.--

[Thu Dec 13 19:51:32 2012] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Thu Dec 13 19:51:37 2012] --You have looted a Wild Lord's Trousers.--
[Thu Dec 13 19:51:39 2012] --You have looted a Diamond Encrusted Staff.--
[Thu Dec 13 19:51:41 2012] --You have looted a Gnarled Staff.--

[Sun Dec 16 03:30:30 2012] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Sun Dec 16 03:30:38 2012] --You have looted a Wild Lord's Trousers.--
[Sun Dec 16 03:30:39 2012] --You have looted a Nightshade Scented Staff.--
Sun Dec 16 03:30:48 2012] --Landan has looted a Gnarled Staff.--

[Tue Jan 01 12:41:25 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Tue Jan 01 12:41:29 2013] --You have looted a Singing Steel Greaves.--
[Tue Jan 01 12:41:30 2013] --You have looted a Lycanthropic Staff.--
[Tue Jan 01 12:41:31 2013] --You have looted a Spell: Bedlam.--

[Wed Jan 09 12:50:21 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Wed Jan 09 12:50:26 2013] --You have looted a Mrylokar's Greaves.--
[Wed Jan 09 12:50:27 2013] --You have looted a Shissar Nullifier Staff.--
[Wed Jan 09 12:50:27 2013] You cannot loot this Lore Item. You already have one.

[Sat Jan 12 12:45:45 2013] Venril Sathir has been slain by Dimitre!
[Sat Jan 12 12:47:18 2013] --Dimitre has looted a Gnarled Staff.--
[Sat Jan 12 12:47:25 2013] --Busta has looted a Donal's Leggings of Mourning.--
[Sat Jan 12 12:47:32 2013] --You have looted a Diamond Encrusted Staff.--
[Sat Jan 12 12:47:33 2013] --You have looted a Spell: Exile Undead.--

[Thu Feb 14 21:16:45 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
*[Thu Feb 14 21:17:07 2013] Darchon tells the group, 'Elder Spiritist's Greaves - Ancient Shissar Gauntlet - Gnarled Staff'
[Thu Feb 14 21:19:50 2013] --Gloiin has looted a Elder Spiritist's Greaves.--
[Thu Feb 14 21:24:31 2013] --You have looted a Ancient Shissar Gauntlet.--

[Sun Feb 24 02:29:59 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Sun Feb 24 02:30:06 2013] --You have looted a Lycanthropic Staff.--
[Sun Feb 24 02:30:07 2013] --You have looted a Deepwater Greaves.--
[Sun Feb 24 02:30:08 2013] --You have looted a Spell: Forlorn Deeds.--
[Sun Feb 24 02:43:55 2013] --Beimeith has looted a Gnarled Staff.--

[Thu Mar 07 18:41:08 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Thu Mar 07 18:41:14 2013] --You have looted a Diamond Encrusted Staff.--
[Thu Mar 07 18:41:15 2013] --You have looted a Blood Ember Greaves.--
***[Thu Mar 07 18:42:10 2013] Darchon tells the guild, 'no gnarled staff, which is surprising'

[Sun Mar 10 18:49:52 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Sun Mar 10 18:49:57 2013] --You have looted a Deepwater Greaves.--
[Sun Mar 10 18:49:57 2013] --You have looted a Diamond Encrusted Staff.--
[Sun Mar 10 18:50:00 2013] --You have looted a Gnarled Staff.--

[Mon Apr 22 14:04:06 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Mon Apr 22 14:04:11 2013] --You have looted a Deepwater Greaves.--
[Mon Apr 22 14:04:12 2013] --You have looted a Nightshade Scented Staff.--
*[Mon Apr 22 14:04:19 2013] You say out of character, 'rots Gnarled Staff'

[Wed Apr 24 17:54:22 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Wed Apr 24 17:54:32 2013] --You have looted a Elder Spiritist's Greaves.--
[Wed Apr 24 17:54:39 2013] --You have looted a Spell: Bandoleer of Luclin.--
*[Wed Apr 24 17:54:44 2013] You say out of character, 'Gnarled Staff - Waters of Impenetrable Aura - Elder Spiritist's Greaves'
*[Wed Apr 24 17:54:48 2013] You say out of character, 'staves are rotting'

[Fri Apr 26 10:33:03 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Fri Apr 26 10:33:07 2013] --You have looted a Elder Spiritist's Greaves.--
[Fri Apr 26 10:33:08 2013] --You have looted a Shissar Guardian Staff.--

[Mon Apr 29 01:03:16 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Mon Apr 29 01:03:44 2013] --You have looted a Wild Lord's Trousers.--
[Mon Apr 29 01:03:44 2013] --You have looted a Shissar Nullifier Staff.--
[Mon Apr 29 01:03:48 2013] You cannot loot this Lore Item. You already have one.
*[Mon Apr 29 01:04:04 2013] Landan tells alliance:1, 'Gnarled Staff rot 29min, FCFS'


[Sun May 19 10:38:05 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Sun May 19 10:38:10 2013] --You have looted a Jaundiced Bone Greaves.--
[Sun May 19 10:38:10 2013] --You have looted a Waters of Impenetrable Aura.--

[Sun May 26 20:10:04 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Sun May 26 20:10:09 2013] --You have looted a Donal's Leggings of Mourning.--
[Sun May 26 20:10:10 2013] --You have looted a Shissar Nullifier Staff.--
*[Sun May 26 20:10:27 2013] You say to your guild, 'rots Gnarled Staff'

[Mon Jul 08 19:12:36 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Mon Jul 08 19:12:59 2013] --Landan has looted a Singing Steel Greaves.--

[Sat Jul 20 12:06:00 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Sat Jul 20 12:06:05 2013] --You have looted a Elder Spiritist's Greaves.--
[Sat Jul 20 12:06:06 2013] --You have looted a Spell: Frost.--
[Sat Jul 20 12:06:08 2013] --You have looted a Shissar Guardian Staff.--

[Fri Aug 30 16:29:02 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Fri Aug 30 16:29:12 2013] --You have looted a Wild Lord's Trousers.--
[Fri Aug 30 16:29:12 2013] --You have looted a Spell: Vocarate: Water.--
*[Fri Aug 30 16:29:25 2013] You say to your guild, 'Ancient Shissar Gauntlet - Gnarled Staff rotting FCFS im logging otu for awhile later'
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I know that was EQMac, but 12 / 19 Venril Sathir's had staves and it is quite possible a few more dropped the staff without me mentioning a rot or trying to loot it.

It *is* possible he didn't have a staff. But as I do comment, I found it peculiar he didn't have a staff on that one kill. I don't think I'd seen a staff less one up to that point.

Something to the tune of 80% is honestly probably around what it was on Al'Kabor, and I can't see any evidence that suggest there was an uptick at some later date. There are posts on EQClerics which I posted in an earlier thread that mention VS has around this 80% drop rate, when the cleric is talking about a long VS rotation on their server. It should be around that 80% number here on P99.

Here is the EQCleric 2002 post I mentioned:

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...otation&page=2

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Unless I missed something, Venril Sathir does NOT drop the Staff every time. It's common (in the neighborhood of 3 Staves per 4 kills) but you are NOT guaranteed to get it.

VS is one of the FEW mobs that is on a strict Rotation on my Server. Every 2 or 3 months, your turn comes up and you kill him.
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Old 03-24-2016, 02:46 PM
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Pending update,
Gnarled Staff drop rate 75% (march2001 onward)
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Old 03-24-2016, 02:50 PM
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Excellent thanks Nilbog for the classic update.

I look forward to reliving the classic "I've killed 20 Phinigels and still no Blue Crystal Staff" woes from wizards now instead of the Gnarled Staff ones of late.
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Old 03-27-2016, 08:55 AM
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"It's not that I don't believe you, I just need more to substantiate a change. I'm 99% done with the VSR respawn changes, and want to get this in at the same time."

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