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Great evidence Baalzy. I started on this server some 8 months ago and have been bumping these pet aggro threads every chance I get. I love pet classes, still play mage as main here, but they are so borked. Lousy aggro, don't cast nearly enough, etc.. I just wish some dev will address this one someday. Even if they just say "suck it, we don't like pets. We aren't changing anything." and I'll stop worrying about it and probably switch to the best p99 pet class, enchanter.
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#12
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I do know my necro pal who solo'd on live until 50 had to use fear even with a compliment of dots because the pet would get aggro otherwise.
Dots for sure were Venom of Snake + Blood Boil + Dooming Darkness -> pet could still get aggro off, even without taunt. Not sure how this applies to raid mobs. Not sure how this applies to having a pet tank for a rogue... we just never tried to do things like that. Not sure exact threat values but it appears pets need a significant aggro boost here from my clickings around on a few chars. How much? Should it be damage based? Numbers of attacks based? Dunno that either, sorry. | ||
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I also feel like, given the number of people talking about turning pet taunt off to keep the mob from turning on the pet, that taunt (at least for pets) acted more as something that added to hate directly instead of the way it does with warriors . As taunt works now, it's useless if the mob is higher level than your pet (which is going to be most-cases when xp'ing until the mid/late 50s when DB range gets really huge). Remember, many of these guides are talking about fighting white/yellow/red cons.
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Last edited by baalzy; 02-11-2014 at 03:27 PM..
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Bump for great justice.
I know this doesn't serve as "evidence," but I remember playing a mage back on live in 2000 and would pull with my level 8 bolt spell, hit something 2 times before it got to me and never had aggro problems. Pet aggro is most definitely broken. | ||
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Clearly you have a grasp on how to get us to revisit an issue. Pet aggro was nerfed because they had become the prefered tank for raids. It might be possible to make some adjustments. Haynar | |||
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Why did you break them 1-50 over raids?
Also that's not classic. Disappointed you'd ruin 2-4 caster classes over end game stuff. | ||
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I appreciate you addressing the issue and possibly working towards a fix in the future | |||
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https://forums.station.sony.com/eq/i...et-aggro.3227/ (2013 discussion after an aggro-meter was added to Live and people realized how much hate pets were generating)
To this day people are commenting on the fact that pet aggro is insanely huge. (theres 10 pages of discussion of tanks bitching pets stealing aggro). The discussion in this thread kinda puts to bed the rule of 4 stuff. At least, the rule of 4 no longer exists (or doesn't exist in new content). Couple gems: Quote:
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I can understand not wanting to let classic mechanics completely trivialize raid content, but the current implementation is hugely detrimental to all aspects of pet-caster play.
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Baalzy - 57 Gnocro, Baalz - 36 Ikscro, Adra - 51 Hileric, Fatbag Ofcrap - 25 halfuid Red99 Baalz Less - Humger, Baalzy - Ikscro If MMORPG players were around when God said, "Let there be light" they'd have called the light gay, and plunged the universe back into darkness by squatting their nutsacks over it. Picture courtesy of azeth | |||
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So nerfs that hurt players are justified as classic, but stuff that helps players is nerfed in an unclassic fashion that breaks a whole class? Wut
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