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Old 02-12-2020, 05:02 PM
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Is the goal to make itemization era correct? If so I don't think Plane of Hate set armor (or post-Hate launch Fear armor) should be dropping off of Phoboplasms nor should Paladin/Ranger/Shadow Knight set armor be in game until after Plane of Hate is introduced and Lustrous Russet removed.
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Old 02-17-2020, 11:33 AM
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Is the goal to make itemization era correct? If so I don't think Plane of Hate set armor (or post-Hate launch Fear armor) should be dropping off of Phoboplasms nor should Paladin/Ranger/Shadow Knight set armor be in game until after Plane of Hate is introduced and Lustrous Russet removed.
While I believe you are correct, we need to dig up some evidence on this. I was surprised when we started seeing class-specific armor drop.

Cryosilk and Russet till Hate.
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Okay I've done a bit of digging on this.

Drops Timeline:

At zone launch:

ALL class armours PLUS lustrous russet dropped in Fear originally. Yes even the Plane of Hate kinds dropped there. However, Indoclite and Woven Shadow did NOT drop, those were added only on Plane of Hate release. Mob details below on what dropped what.

Here's a long post with class drops info for Fear at release (from the Onelist archives I scraped before Yahoo took them down):

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Message ID: 802
Date: Wed Aug 4 21:21:10 BST 1999
Author: Rob Berryhill
Subject: RE: fear plane


Okay *************** SPOILER ******************


This info is from the bards list about the plane of fear, you have been
warned that it contains spoilers.



******
THIS IS GONNA BE JUST CHOK FULL OF SPOILERS. DO NOT READ IF THIS SORT OF
THING RUINS YOUR FUN.
******

Alright, i fancy myself some sort of veteran on the fear plane after quite
a few expeditions. Its hard. I die frequently being a bard of the 48th lvl.
Most are stupid deaths like the expedition splits up and i get ganked. A
few are just bad luck where 3 things show up and you get nailed too fast
for even a loh. When you zone in you will be on a hill top. 90% of the time
nothing will be near you and you can safely sit there for an hour. ONE time
i zoned in and got backstabbed for 400 by a scareling who then teleported
me away from the hill (never that far, but if you havent been there you can
run the wrong way and get into a lot of trouble). I died shortly after when
i got back to the hill and he ganked me from behind again with another
incredible backstab. My team zoned in right as a died. Ah well, after at
least 30 zone ins, thats only happened once.

Right after you get into the fear plane and everybody is there, i recommend
heading south ( i think south) to the corner of the zone. Its just down the
hill and instead of running the risk of being hit from all 4 directions,
you only have to worry about one and a half. Then have some adventurous
soul pull to there. Haromony or the bard lull or a high lvl enchanter can
really help with pulling, otherwise you might get more than one which is
bad. Two sucks. Three you better have three full groups. 4, start thinking
evac. All of my fear plane expeditions have involved three full groups,
with everybody 40+. This makes it fairly safe, though at least one person
dies every hour. personal gates and evac all have the same chances of
succeding as everywhere else. I have witnessed no wierd behavior from
spells or songs, everything works as before. I especially loved it when i
used appaling screech on Cazic Thules fright henchman and he ran.
Delightfully ironic.

A quick mob run down and some tactics :

Spiders drop cryosilk which is for the magi classes. The robe is incredible
and like nothing you have ever seen. Plus they drop a mage shield thats
like the shimmering orb.

Scarelings teleport you randomly around and like to backstab for outrageous
amounts of damage.
The teleport is never that far, but if you get
disorientated and run the wrong way.... They drop nothing special that we
have found(besides high lvl words and runes, which are super common in the
fear plane, our lvl 50 necro just got her 49th lvl pet spell, and all the
wizs have their ice come runes).

Phantasms fear you which can cause all kinds of problems. They drop nothing
special


The little toads drop grey shaman armour and fear you also.

The worry wraiths drop the purple cleric armour and do something called
gravity flux. If you have levitate then you get thrown up like 10 feet and
you float down. If you DONT have levitate then look forward to upwards of
600 pts of damage from the fall. Bards are AWESOME for these because we
just turn on the group levitate song and nobody gets hurt and you dont ahve
to worry about the visible levitate bug.

Glare lords. Avoid these at all costs, they have a rain spell that can wipe
out an entire party in no time. if you are getting rained on by a glare
lord MOVE. Otherwise you will die, and die fast. They drop nothing special
that we have found

Boogeymen. My personal favorite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.], they drop the gold bard only armour.
Boogeymen will fear you, but other than that they are a pushover. So far we
have found arms, gloves, and boots (boots i got myself).

Shiverback gorillas. my second favorite cause they just hit hard and dont
do any crazy stuff like all the other mobs. They drop monk only armour like
gloves that give serpentsight and a very visually unigue set of greeves. We
got 1 monk in our group that has almost the entire set and it looks great.

Amgdylan warrios drop the russet armour which is usuable by all plate
wearing classes including rogues and rangers.
It looks like a sort of
copper or bronze sheen. Great stuff.

Amgdylan knights drop the black shadow knight armour. They ht so watch it

Gorgons drop the green chain armour for druids. Got almost an entire set
already for one druid and it looks great. These guys stun for a long time
so carefull pulling them.

Tentacle Tormentors. Drop the green plate for rangers. These guys are just
like the ones found in najena, have your back to a wall when fighting them

Dracolich. So far he has dropped the bone razor (awesome rogue only dirk),
staff of undead legions (necro only staff), and some other staff that i
forget which only ogre and troll shamans can use.

Cazic Thule. Havent killed him yet cause the zone keeps crashing for us
everytime we almost have it cleared. Mass deaths always cause everytbody
logs in one at a time and gets slaughterd.

So is it worth it? Definatly, the items are just incredible there. If its
armour, its no drop though. Thats all i can think of right now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gendal Concorden, lvl 48 bard of tunare.


Astur il'Ayan, Cleric of Brell
Solusek Ro


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mystik [mailto:mystik@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 2:59 PM
> To: EQ-Clerics@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [EQ-Clerics] fear plane
>
>
> From: Mystik <mystik@...>
>
> ahhh...i know the gorgons drop the druid armor, the worry wraiths drop the
> cleric.....not sure about the others....i think the fetid fiends drop the
> blue pally armor.....not really sure about the rest...all common
> mobs tho (:
>
> Sean.Stephen@... wrote:
>
> > From: Sean.Stephen@...
> >
> > what drops such sweet armor on that nasty plane then ?
> >
> > Mystik <mystik@...> on 04/08/99 05:32:11
> >
> > Please respond to EQ-Clerics@onelist.com
> >
> > To: "EQ-Clerics@onelist.com" <EQ-Clerics@onelist.com>
> > cc: (bcc: Sean Stephen/UK/PSYGNOSIS)
> > Subject: [EQ-Clerics] fear plane
> >
> > From: Mystik <mystik@...>
> >
> > OMG that place is kewl!!!!! (: and the cleric only armor is nice...only
> > gotten one piece so far, and was lucky to get that....but other than
> > that, it's very fun....the armor is a deep purple...i took tons of
> > screens, and i'll send them out to you guys when i weed thru em in a day
> > or so...will get a pic of me in the armor so you can see it for
> > yourself...the stats on the bracer i got is like 9dex, 9cha, and 20
> > mana....no drop, as is all armor in there...BUT it's cleric
> > only...<sweeeeeet> don't know the stats on the bp or the sleeves, boots,
> > helm, etc, but i do know the legs add like 9 wis <drools>...anywoo, just
> > wanted to share my adventure for the night (:
> >
> > (\/)ystix Spellchaser
> > lv 46 human cleric of The Rathe
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Another mailing list post corroborating the class drops all at once in PoF:

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Message ID: 4700
Date: Sun Aug 1 18:49:12 BST 1999
Author: Garramone, Michael (CCI-Las Vegas)
Subject: RE: Yellow?!?


Bunch of my friends went a couple nights ago, warrior who is our guild
leader got the BladeStorm off the dracoliche. i think another guild on some
other server got this same sword off CazicThule himself. ranger got thorny
arms and bracer, warrior got russet arms, cleric got the pruple boots,
enchanter got that sand-colored robe with the eyes on it. good night
, i
missed it was asleep, luckily no bard items were found. i think i am at
work and as i type this my wife is playing and in fear, told me they got a
cryosilk cap for a wizard.
i really don't want to be at work right now =(

Shada

>
> We didnt get any bracers, just arms. My friend tinen (lvl 41
> bard) got the
> arms since we where randoming everything that was obtained between the
> classes that could use them.
Me and tinen nearly fell over
> laughing when we
> found the first bard only item since we where the only 2
> bards. But alas,
> he got the first item, and we didnt find anymore for the
> night since we
> gated out shortly after that. All of this was on the first
> day, before they
> made it supposedly harder.

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And a newsgroup post for good measure:

https://groups.google.com/d/topic/al...AiM/discussion


Fall of 1999 Changes

* Lustrous Russet was changed in the September 14th 1999 patch to be warrior only:

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Message ID: 6479
Date: Tue Sep 14 17:24:25 BST 1999
Author: Rokenn Swiftsong
Subject: More changes in last Patch that were NOT listed **Spoiler**


It appears someone with access to the Guild message board posted this to the
EQVault general board today.
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Here are some additional changes which occured in the patch that were not
announced. I know you all are probably getting
petitions on alot of these so hopefully this information will allow you to
inform players that it was a change and not a bug.

If there are any others we may have missed please report them to your server
GM so that we can verify that they were indeed
intentional changes and not bugs.

Thanks,
Solist

Normal arrows (item 8005)have had their range reduced from 50 to 25. This is
because fletched arrows are range 50 and a
flectcher making his own arrows should have better arrows than generic
storebought ones. No other arrows were affected

-The Box of Abu-Kar has had the itī┐Ēs weight reduction greatly reduced.
(donī┐Ēt have exact reduction specs)

-The item Glowing Stein has been changed to Stein of Moggok

-The Lustrous Russet Armor is now warrior only, a previous error had caused
it to be used by several other classes despite the
fact it was always intented to be warrior only

-The Fletching kit now has 8 slots. This is to allow more items added into
the process to make new bows.

-New tailoring items have been added. Tailors can now make the silk series
of armor. The books on how to manufacture these
are also in the game, but are spawn drops and not vendor sales.

-Vendors who previously sold just arrow nocks now sell all of the fletching
materials.

Reported by a Player (Remf the Troll)

-nobles crests from the npc paladins in swamp are nodrop now
-kolandi fish now nodrop
-erud tonic now nodrop
-honeyjum now require high faction to acquire
-egg shaped pumice now casts dispel magic instead of pillage enchantment
-monster frenzy AI tweaked
-crafted armor now sells to vendor for 10x lower prices

"bugs"
-fishies still swim in the air
-items dropped on ground become permanent fixtures, at least client side
-teleporting monsters play leapfrog when the appear, keep jumping on top of
you
-new arrow range overrides bow rating (25 arrow + 150 bow = 25 arrow range
:/


Rokenn Swiftsong - Karana server
Master Craftsmen of Societus Argenti

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Corroboration from the newsgroups:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....A/tbAu-b7jpmAJ


* Finally, when Hate released, some of the class armours were moved (basically to what things are now), and presumably Lustrous Russet was removed completely:

https://groups.google.com/d/topic/al...WqM/discussion
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Old 02-17-2020, 02:57 PM
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Sorry forgot to mention up above, until PoH release the only caster armor was Cryosilk. The robe stopped dropping with PoH release I assume.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Cryosilk_Armor

Also, as a historical note, Rogues were meant to have class armor drop off Scarelings but it was forgotten / not implemented.

Edit: Wow there are some really cool timeline points of interest from that Guide forums post! Fletching kit wasn't 8 slot till Sept.14 1999, storebought arrow range was 50, Silk armor wasn't tailorable, many other tidbits.
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Fascinating, Dolalin. You don’t specifically mention the necro/wizard armor from Fear, but I guess it was added with PoHate?

All sounds like great material for some future clean server...
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Also no mention of Paladin armor from zombies.

I didn't realize that Cleric and Shaman armor originally dropped in Fear and got moved to Hate - i just assumed that all classes on Lustrous Russet got their own armor when it was renamed to Indicolite and made Warrior only.


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-The item Glowing Stein has been changed to Stein of Moggok
Didn't know it wasn't always called Stein of Moggok.
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Old 02-20-2020, 02:22 AM
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Also no mention of Paladin armor from zombies.
It looks like Valorium was dropping in Fear, this guy says he had a full set of it nearly in September 1999.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....g/F2W-RbiCPDMJ
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Fascinating, Dolalin. You don’t specifically mention the necro/wizard armor from Fear, but I guess it was added with PoHate?
Correct, until PoH release the only caster armor was Cryosilk. Wish I could edit my original post [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Funny the guy says he can zone into fear whenever and not get aggro except for one time he got 1 mob. Wonder if that was a troll or p99 is off
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