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Old 09-16-2015, 08:51 AM
paulgiamatti paulgiamatti is offline
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Default Call of the Hero not clearing aggro correctly

I was trying to pull Gkrean in Kael out into the courtyard basically by shooting an arrow at him, then hide/sneaking past the three protectors while a mage CotH'd me back to the arena camp spot, then our monk would tag him from there after I had been CotH'd.

It worked really well. First two attempts I didn't get them out far enough, but was successfully CotH'd each time so I could just run back and try again. Third time looked good - Gkrean was clearly out into the courtyard after I'd been CotH'd, and our monk had a clear shot at him.

Except CotH didn't clear my aggro, so Gkrean, his priest guardians, and the three protectors all came to our camp and gave us a good stomping.

First attempt:
[Wed Sep 16 04:06:34 2015] You begin to hide...
[Wed Sep 16 04:06:35 2015] You have hidden yourself from view.
[Wed Sep 16 04:06:35 2015] Azzudnan tells the group, 'coth is 12 secs, so tell me when'
[Wed Sep 16 04:06:35 2015] You begin to sneak...
[Wed Sep 16 04:06:35 2015] You are as quiet as a cat stalking its prey.
[Wed Sep 16 04:06:41 2015] protector of Zek regards you indifferently -- it appears to be quite formidable.
[Wed Sep 16 04:07:08 2015] You tell your party, 'kk, one sec'
[Wed Sep 16 04:07:27 2015] You tell your party, 'start casting now'
[Wed Sep 16 04:07:28 2015] You have moved and are no longer hidden!!
[Wed Sep 16 04:07:30 2015] a priest of Tallon Zek says, 'You will not defile our temple!'
[Wed Sep 16 04:07:30 2015] You hit a priest of Tallon Zek for 40 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:07:30 2015] Azzudnan tells the group, 'CotH < Paulgiamatti > 12 secs'
[Wed Sep 16 04:07:31 2015] You begin to hide...
[Wed Sep 16 04:07:31 2015] You have momentarily ducked away from the main combat.
[Wed Sep 16 04:07:32 2015] a priest of Tallon Zek begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Sep 16 04:07:38 2015] Gkrean Prophet of Tallon begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Sep 16 04:07:39 2015] You resist the Reckoning spell!
[Wed Sep 16 04:07:39 2015] You have moved and are no longer hidden!!
[Wed Sep 16 04:07:40 2015] protector of Zek says, 'How dare you tread on this holy ground?!'
[Wed Sep 16 04:07:40 2015] protector of Zek says, 'How dare you tread on this holy ground?!'
[Wed Sep 16 04:07:40 2015] protector of Zek says, 'How dare you tread on this holy ground?!'
[Wed Sep 16 04:07:42 2015] You have been summoned!
[Wed Sep 16 04:07:45 2015] You resist the Reckoning spell!

(Spell lands on me after successful CotH, and aggro is wiped correctly.)
[Wed Sep 16 04:07:51 2015] You tell your party, 'hmm, little too early'
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:05 2015] Azzudnan tells the group, 'have mana for a few more'
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:13 2015] You tell your party, 'spell ready again?'
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:15 2015] You begin to hide...
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:15 2015] You have hidden yourself from view.

(Successful hide without a "You have momentarily ducked away from the main combat" message, confirming I didn't have aggro.)
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:16 2015] You begin to sneak...
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:16 2015] You are as quiet as a cat stalking its prey.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:18 2015] Azzudnan tells the group, 'ya'

Second attempt:
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:35 2015] You begin to hide...
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:35 2015] You have hidden yourself from view.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:36 2015] a priest of Tallon Zek says, 'You will not defile our temple!'
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:36 2015] You try to hit a priest of Tallon Zek, but miss!
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:40 2015] protector of Zek says, 'How dare you tread on this holy ground?!'
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:41 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:41 2015] You are no longer hidden.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:41 2015] You stop sneaking.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:41 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 207 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:41 2015] You are stunned!
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:41 2015] Protector of Zek kicks YOU for 44 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:41 2015] protector of Zek says, 'How dare you tread on this holy ground?!'
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:41 2015] protector of Zek says, 'How dare you tread on this holy ground?!'
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:41 2015] You tell your party, 'start casting now'
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:41 2015] Gkrean Prophet of Tallon begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:41 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:41 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 390 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:41 2015] Protector of Zek tries to kick YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:42 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but YOU parry!
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:42 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:42 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 390 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:42 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 390 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:42 2015] Protector of Zek tries to bash YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:42 2015] a priest of Tallon Zek begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:42 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:42 2015] Azzudnan tells the group, 'CotH < Paulgiamatti > 12 secs'
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:43 2015] You are unstunned.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:43 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 116 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:44 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 262 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:44 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 44 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:44 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:44 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 244 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:44 2015] Your feet adhere to the ground.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:44 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:45 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 317 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:45 2015] Your heroism fades.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:45 2015] The mystic symbol fades.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:45 2015] You feel annulled.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:46 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 80 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:46 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 98 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:46 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:46 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:46 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 317 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:46 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 44 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:47 2015] Your feet come free.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:47 2015] A priest of Tallon Zek hits YOU for 131 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:47 2015] A priest of Tallon Zek hits YOU for 88 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:47 2015] A priest of Tallon Zek tries to bash YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:47 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:47 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 390 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:49 2015] a priest of Tallon Zek begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:54 2015] You have been summoned!
[Wed Sep 16 04:08:56 2015] You have been struck down by the judgement of the gods. You have taken 123 points of damage.

(Spell lands on me after successful CotH, and aggro is wiped correctly.)
[Wed Sep 16 04:09:00 2015] You say, 'Hail, Gkrean Prophet of Tallon'
[Wed Sep 16 04:09:10 2015] Azzudnan tells the group, 'tag that test?'
[Wed Sep 16 04:09:17 2015] Testosterone tells the group, 'neg'
[Wed Sep 16 04:09:36 2015] Azzudnan tells the group, 'gkrean stays behind for casting?'
[Wed Sep 16 04:09:37 2015] Testosterone tells the group, 'pull away from me'
[Wed Sep 16 04:09:41 2015] Testosterone tells the group, 'yeah'
[Wed Sep 16 04:09:44 2015] Testosterone tells the group, 'pull to the other side'
[Wed Sep 16 04:09:45 2015] You tell your party, 'kk'
[Wed Sep 16 04:09:51 2015] Testosterone tells the group, 'so he is near me and others are away'
[Wed Sep 16 04:11:35 2015] Azzudnan tells the group, 'ready'

Third attempt:
[Wed Sep 16 04:11:36 2015] You tell your party, 'kk here goes'
[Wed Sep 16 04:11:43 2015] You have moved and are no longer hidden!!
[Wed Sep 16 04:11:44 2015] You begin to hide...
[Wed Sep 16 04:11:44 2015] You have hidden yourself from view.

(Successful hide without a "You have momentarily ducked away from the main combat" message, confirming I didn't have aggro.)
[Wed Sep 16 04:11:45 2015] a priest of Tallon Zek says, 'You will not defile our temple!'
[Wed Sep 16 04:11:45 2015] You try to hit a priest of Tallon Zek, but miss!
[Wed Sep 16 04:11:49 2015] You tell your party, 'start casting now'
[Wed Sep 16 04:11:50 2015] protector of Zek says, 'How dare you tread on this holy ground?!'
[Wed Sep 16 04:11:50 2015] protector of Zek says, 'How dare you tread on this holy ground?!'
[Wed Sep 16 04:11:50 2015] Azzudnan tells the group, 'CotH < Paulgiamatti > 12 secs'
[Wed Sep 16 04:11:51 2015] You are no longer hidden.
[Wed Sep 16 04:11:51 2015] You stop sneaking.
[Wed Sep 16 04:11:51 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 244 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:11:51 2015] Protector of Zek tries to bash YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:11:53 2015] protector of Zek says, 'How dare you tread on this holy ground?!'
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:02 2015] You have been summoned!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:02 2015] protector of Zek says, 'How dare you tread on this holy ground?!'
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:02 2015] protector of Zek says, 'How dare you tread on this holy ground?!'
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:02 2015] a priest of Tallon Zek says, 'You will not defile our temple!'
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:02 2015] a priest of Tallon Zek begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:04 2015] protector of Zek says, 'How dare you tread on this holy ground?!'
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:04 2015] You resist the Immobilize spell!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:09 2015] You begin to hide...
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:09 2015] You have momentarily ducked away from the main combat.

(Spell lands on me after successful CotH, but aggro is not wiped, confirmed by the "ducked away from the main combat" message.)
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:09 2015] You begin to sneak...
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:10 2015] You are as quiet as a cat stalking its prey.
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:18 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:18 2015] You are no longer hidden.
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:18 2015] You stop sneaking.
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:18 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 171 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:18 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:18 2015] Protector of Zek tries to kick YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:18 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:18 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 390 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:18 2015] Protector of Zek tries to kick YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:18 2015] Gkrean Prophet of Tallon hits YOU for 61 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:18 2015] Gkrean Prophet of Tallon hits YOU for 172 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:18 2015] You are stunned!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:18 2015] Gkrean Prophet of Tallon bashes YOU for 48 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:19 2015] A priest of Tallon Zek tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:19 2015] A priest of Tallon Zek hits YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:19 2015] A priest of Tallon Zek tries to bash YOU, but YOU parry!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:20 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 244 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:20 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:20 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 390 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:20 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:20 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:20 2015] Protector of Zek tries to kick YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:20 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:20 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:20 2015] You tell your party, 'waaat'
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:20 2015] Gkrean Prophet of Tallon tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:20 2015] You are unstunned.
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:21 2015] A priest of Tallon Zek hits YOU for 70 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:21 2015] A priest of Tallon Zek tries to hit YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:21 2015] Azzudnan's spell fizzles!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:21 2015] Cheich begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:21 2015] Testosterone tells the group, 'better run'
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:21 2015] Azzudnan tells the group, 'CotH < Paulgiamatti > 12 secs'
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:21 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 390 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:21 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:21 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 189 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:21 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:21 2015] Protector of Zek tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:22 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 390 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:22 2015] Protector of Zek hits YOU for 335 points of damage.
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:22 2015] You have been knocked unconscious!
[Wed Sep 16 04:12:22 2015] You have been slain by protector of Zek!
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Old 09-16-2015, 03:28 PM
Alunova Alunova is offline
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It looks like it cleared agro and something caused it to re-agro, maybe a DoT or being too close.
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Old 09-17-2015, 01:13 AM
paulgiamatti paulgiamatti is offline
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I definitely wasn't too close, I was CotH'd back to the right side safe spot where people usually pull mobs to in arena, and I pulled them farther away from us the third time when they reaggro'd than I did the first and second time.

No dots, since the only casters that aggro'd me were clerics. I'm pretty confounded by it... the only thing I can think of is maybe there's something buggy going on when another player is added to the hate list - for instance, the monk getting aggro right before I was CotH'd - and then after I got CotH'd, I wasn't fully cleared of aggro for some reason.

It looked like the monk was doing his tag thing, all the giants that were on me went to him after I was CotH'd, but once he feigned death they all came right to me like I was #2 on the hate list. I was way out of proxy aggro range, though.
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Old 09-17-2015, 07:53 AM
Daldaen Daldaen is offline
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The way I'm reading that is, you get CotH'd and I immediately you get those 3-4 aggro messages from the priests and clerics. It's possible the memblur part of CotH worked on you and the split second between that working and you physically getting summoned was a server tick allowing those mobs to reaggro.

I've done a lot of CotH pulls in Velious, I've yet to have any issue with memblur. This appears to be a freak incident.
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Old 09-17-2015, 09:14 AM
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I'm betting that CoTH is working correctly. My guess is that whole thing they implemented a while back about not being able to range a spell from a mob once it starts casting is the issue. Time your CoTH better and it should work.
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