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Old 08-28-2018, 09:55 AM
azeth azeth is offline
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The only era where rogues weren't distantly king/top dog/hot shit is classic era, specifically PoSky. Most of that problem was due to shit hit boxes.

Gorenaire is another specifically where rogues won't do as much as you'd like.
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Yea well you know, 6 years of Velious everything has been killed, only thing left to do is speedrun killing Detoxx guilds.
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Old 08-28-2018, 10:00 AM
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Shadow Knight...

Every class can do something at raids but I don't think shadow knights have a special ability that adds utility or makes them better at any given task than another class. Every other class has something which they are best at or that the raid misses when it isn't present.... but no one has ever said "Damn, we don't have any SK here"

Ranger: best speed bump + CoTP
Warrior: Tank
Mage: CoTH + summoned items
Wizard: TL + best DPS in some scenarios
Rogue: Best general DPS (one day if every monk has abashi + triple attack + 2h damage bonus maybe these guys will be obsolete =P )
Enchanter: TASH/C2/VOG/GOB/GRM + Best DPS in some scenarios
Necro: DMF + Pet Pull + twitch
Druid: Mobility + PoTG + Best DPS in some scenarios
Cleric: Heal Chain + Buffs
Shaman: Malo + Buffs + Slow + torpor
Bard: Mana regen + kiting + DS + resists
Monk: FD + Voidance (maybe future best general DPS at very end game)
Paladin: Divine Strength

SK can do some stuff on raid with their pet and ability to FD but they aren't better than necros / monks / paladins at any of the stuff they might try and do on raids...
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Old 08-28-2018, 10:03 AM
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I answered above that shadow knights don't bring anything to the end game but if your plan is to play to 60 and then quit, SK is a great tank while grinding to 60
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Old 08-28-2018, 10:09 AM
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Red face 'bout 30k DPS

[Sun Mar 09 23:00:44 2014] You say to your guild, 'Xygoz in 24s, 34k @1399dps :: Cecily 4k @205dps (11.01%) :: Roublard 3k @176dps (9.93%) :: Fundo 2k @136dps (7.27%) :: Gunnter 2k @143dps (6.81%) :: Nixxar 2k @100dps (6.27%) :: Remnence 2k @126dps (5.99%) :: Argeye 2k @110dps (5.55%) :: Emsee 2k @99dps (5.32%) :: Pounded 1k @93dps (4.44%) :: Detoxx 1k @54dps (3.38%)'

[Sat Apr 05 04:54:52 2014] You say to your guild, 'Hoshkar in 77s, 35k @452dps :: Cecily 6k @82dps (17.47%) :: Solkunar 4k @48dps (10.25%) :: Gunnter 3k @44dps (9.39%) :: Detoxx 3k @42dps (9.24%) :: Kingore 3k @36dps (7.73%) :: Lazie 2k @33dps (7.03%) :: Kautin 2k @26dps (5.52%) :: Nixxar 2k @65dps (5.44%) :: Barlow 2k @24dps (5.2%) :: Remnence 1k @62dps (3.94%)'

[Sat Apr 12 09:00:24 2014] You say to your guild, 'Hoshkar in 42s, 31k @744dps :: Cecily 5k @121dps (14.76%) :: Fundo 4k @100dps (12.53%) :: Skew 3k @77dps (9.15%) :: Hujiko 3k @73dps (9.11%) :: Nixxar 2k @61dps (7.4%) :: Emsee 2k @54dps (6.22%) :: Knockers 2k @44dps (5.64%) :: Lazie 2k @40dps (5.15%) :: Rotokan 2k @43dps (5.09%) :: Barlow 1k @38dps (4.44%)'

[Sun May 25 03:34:41 2014] You say to your guild, 'Hoshkar in 112s, 41k @369dps :: Cecily 10k @93dps (24.32%) :: Fundo 5k @48dps (11.55%) :: Hujiko 3k @50dps (8.34%) :: Gunnter 3k @31dps (6.9%) :: Dinacarl 2k @63dps (5.93%) :: Fetal 2k @28dps (5.17%) :: Alde 2k @33dps (4.1%) :: Dumper 2k @22dps (3.86%) :: Howtzer 1k @19dps (3.56%) :: Barlow 1k @31dps (3.52%)'

[Sat Apr 19 00:31:24 2014] You say to your guild, 'Phara Dar in 28s, 33k @1163dps :: Cecily 4k @156dps (11.47%) :: Emsee 3k @110dps (9.13%) :: Babysinblack 3k @110dps (8.78%) :: Gabobrik 3k @112dps (8.26%) :: Ramblin 3k @114dps (7.71%) :: Sckrilla 2k @87dps (6.72%) :: Roublard 2k @86dps (6.32%) :: Fundo 2k @75dps (6.24%) :: Skew 2k @79dps (5.37%) :: Picks 1k @57dps (4.39%)'

[Wed Jun 04 01:49:02 2014] Fundo tells the guild, '/g Trakanon in 21s, 22k @1026dps --- Cecily 3k @250dps (16.22%) --- Fundo 3k @181dps (14.26%) --- Barlow 2k @138dps (11.52%) --- Fuvio 2k @148dps (11.02%) --- Cyrano 2k @120dps (10.04%) --- Detoxx 2k @114dps (8.96%) --- Niceboots 2k @96dps (8.92%) --- Greefa 1k @138dps (6.38%) --- Glynna 1k @58dps (4.58%) --- Sebilite juggernaut 1k @97dps (2.7%)'

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[Sun Jun 15 15:44:59 2014] You told raden, '/gui Hoshkar in 26s, 28k @1065dps :: Cecily 5k @258dps (19.59%) :: Fundo 4k @168dps (12.74%) :: Skew 3k @117dps (9.32%) :: Kautin 2k @67dps (5.58%) :: Aalpha 1k @64dps (5.35%) :: Kingore 1k @62dps (5.35%) :: Remnence 1k @66dps (5.21%) :: Sckrilla 1k @55dps (4.19%) :: Hujiko 1k @49dps (3.93%) :: Flippie 1k @102dps (3.7%)'

[Sun Jun 15 15:45:59 2014] You say out of character, '/gui Hoshkar in 26s, 28k @1065dps :: Cecily 5k @258dps (19.59%) :: Fundo 4k @168dps (12.74%) :: Skew 3k @117dps (9.32%) :: Kautin 2k @67dps (5.58%) :: Aalpha 1k @64dps (5.35%) :: Kingore 1k @62dps (5.35%) :: Remnence 1k @66dps (5.21%) :: Sckrilla 1k @55dps (4.19%) :: Hujiko 1k @49dps (3.93%) :: Flippie 1k @102dps (3.7%)'

[Sun Jun 15 15:46:07 2014] Heallun says out of character, '258 dps my balls'

[Sun Jun 15 15:52:09 2014] You say to your guild, '/gui Hoshkar in 26s, 28k @1065dps :: Cecily 5k @258dps (19.59%) :: Fundo 4k @168dps (12.74%) :: Skew 3k @117dps (9.32%) :: Kautin 2k @67dps (5.58%) :: Aalpha 1k @64dps (5.35%) :: Kingore 1k @62dps (5.35%) :: Remnence 1k @66dps (5.21%) :: Sckrilla 1k @55dps (4.19%) :: Hujiko 1k @49dps (3.93%) :: Flippie 1k @102dps (3.7%)'
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Old 08-28-2018, 10:20 AM
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When are dru best dps?
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Old 08-28-2018, 10:23 AM
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Druids are pretty good on Hoshkar, but hardly anyone keys one for VP. I used to top parses on old Dracoliche with my rogue and druid because everyone else was bad at the hit box.
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Old 08-28-2018, 10:39 AM
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Now post the pathetic Dracoliche fights Cecily
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Old 08-28-2018, 10:56 AM
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I'm gonna say the DPS program log parser I installed was a bit waffly and had settings to tweak it, would like to see an impartial dataset [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-28-2018, 11:01 AM
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don't rangers do the best DPS now?

thought that was a thing
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Old 08-28-2018, 11:03 AM
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Lure of Ice is 180 DPS. Rogues do around 100 DPS, maybe 150 if really short fight and burning disc.
There are maybe 2 wizards on this server that are able to push respectable DPS without pulling aggro.

I play both of them.
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