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Old 04-28-2020, 05:03 PM
Jimjam Jimjam is offline
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Just bumping sadness that this spell doesn't have the breadth of faction protection it granted in y2k.
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Old 05-21-2021, 07:00 PM
hnomad hnomad is offline
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Faction aside, minor illusion doesn't seem to have the original entertaining effect of turning you into the nearest inanimate object. My gnome just gets bigger.. not as fun. Please fix it so I can be a chair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 05-22-2021, 02:16 AM
Jimjam Jimjam is offline
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I think the faction issue (doesn’t set most factions to indif) could be related to how race,class, deity modifiers are applied at creation instead of live.

I suspect minor illusion should set these modifiers to null values.
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:32 PM
zelld52 zelld52 is offline
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2003 Patch
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** Illusions/Shape Change **

We have changed the way that Illusions and Shape Changes work with
respect to faction. The new system is a lot easier to understand than
the old one, so we'll just explain the new one. When changed into the
form of a playable race, characters are treated as if they were a
member of that race. When changed into a non-playable race, characters
retain their own racial factions.
Player later that year stating how it no longer makes you indifferent.
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RE: minor illusion
#Sep 30 2003 at 2:59
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I've heard a few times that this spell no longer has faction adjustment of any kind. Its mainly for fun. I didnt bother to pick this spell up (well.. actualy I forgot to, I like messing around with illusions. Try casting it just outside of the bank in PoK and start turning around in circles =p)

So minor illusion should make you indifferent if agnostic - it seemingly should set racial faction modifiers to 0, which it does not currently.

Since the second part of the classic exploit doesn't work here, (players can't move while minor illusion) - this should get fixed
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:47 PM
zelld52 zelld52 is offline
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Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I think the faction issue (doesn’t set most factions to indif) could be related to how race,class, deity modifiers are applied at creation instead of live.

I suspect minor illusion should set these modifiers to null values.
It seems it set the racial modifier to 0. So, given the right (or wrong) deity at creation, you could still be in trouble.
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